hey guys well after my recent axle snapping of the stock stagea diff, well i presumed the diff had same axles as gtr so i got a gtr axle sent to me and when i put them side by side the gtr is like HUGE in comparision and the uni joints are twice the size, ill post pics when i get some spare time

so we have decided the piss weak stagea diff had to go, so once i removed it i open the back plate up to reveal a open wheeler POS :confused:

so that was even more reason to ditch the stagea diff and pencil thick axles :uh-huh:

well i just picked up the gtr diff/axles/brakes/arms/whole rear end pretty much for a bargain from a friend :jump:

on the weekend im gonna see how easy its gonna fit might all bolt in using mix and match of parts, as the rear suspension and shit looks abit different and the gtr has fork mountings for the shockies, but that isnt a real issue as i can just get stagea 260rs suspension from apexi or something as they use gtr diff

ill keep you guys posted on how it goes and only issue is whether the original 4.3 gears will fit in the gtr diff or not and if not i got a spare set of 4.11 front gears so ill have to change them otherwise :uh-huh:

cheers

Brad

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just make sure the ratios are the same...

they probably are, but it always pays to check.

If the ratios are different, you may find yourself doing a front diff aswell

ratios are definately different, as gtr has 4.11s and stagea is 4.3s so im gonna try fitting the 4.3 gears in the gtr diff, or otherwise i have to swap the front diff gears to the gtr original 4.11s which luckily i got a spare set sitting in the garage ready if need be :uh-huh:

At least now you wont heopfully have any more breakage back there

Good info Brad,

So the LSD on the RS4's must have been an option.. hmmm...

You'll notice an improvement in acceleration if you go with the 4.11 gears, but at the sacrifice of a bit of fuel ecconomy though

J

Totally off topic.. I found out why my coffee cup leaves a bit of hot water when I half fill it.. A hair line crack in the side of it. It's had me puzzled for weeks until today when the crack is now noticable.. lol

I think you got it backwards JAY95R33

wont you get better acceleration with the 4.3's???

D'oh - I always get it around the wrong way lol

well i been comparing the sizes of the diff parts compared to the gtr parts and here are the measurements

Splines into hub

stagea 29.82mm
gtr 32.65mm

axle thickness

stagea 28.07mm
gtr 30.07mm

swaybars

stagea 19.25mm
gtr 25.60mm

rear brake rotors

stagea 265.05mm
gtr 297.02mm

axle to diff uni joint size

stagea 90.63mm
gtr 98.94mm

so theres some interesting figures showing nissan sure did save on the $$$ when selecting parts for the stageas :chairshot

also on a side note the transfer case in the stagea auto compared to a gtr manual one has only half the strength components and doesnt compare to the gtr as they only have 4 lugs pushing the clutch packs together and the gtr has 8 which is a huge difference, ill take some shots to show you's anyway.

cheers Brad

Cheers for the breakdown Brad. How long have you been playing with the stag for?

So how do those mesurments compare to a R33 GTS-t

no worries guys

i bought the stagea at the end of november last year so about 6 months i been playing

ta

Brad

Yep, they were optional on the auto's, but came as standard on the manuals... So check to see if your (auto) car has one before you buy it! :-)

Ian

how can you tell?

so what your saying is that the 2.5 stagea doesn`t really have a gtr "driveline " to start with....thanks mythbuster
ps: autech stagea has different wheel offset +30 front +20 rear due to different diff/ housing width than 2.5 .
+30 need adapters to fit rear
it may be something you come up against:cheers:

Pull over during a test drive and tell them you are going to check if there is an LSD.

Put it in D, hold the brake down, push accelerator until the car creeps, at the same time floor it and release the brakes, then feather the brakes.

Hopefully you get some type of wheel spin, look at the rear if it left marks, 2 marks = LSD :Pimp2:

Alternatively, and I've done this in my youth more than once :-), from a standing start put your foot all the way to the floor, and once you moving OK (say about 4 seconds later) do a sharp 180 degree corner (foot still flat to the floor). If you hear a cracking noise and loose power half way around, you do not have a LSD.. :-)

Ian