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The R34 GTT standard intercooler arrived yesterday, as you can see from the pictures it is in almost brand new condition;
![]() The comparisons with the standard Stagea intercooler follow, note the extra thickness and the 3 extra rows (height) ![]() ![]() Time to measure it up, the core is 80 mm thick, compared to the standard Stagea's 65 mm. The core is 210mm wide and 225mm high (18 rows) while the standard Stagea intercooler is 210mmmm by 185mm (15 rows). This would indicate an improvement in flow of 23%, R34GTT is 206kw and Stagea is 170kw, that's a 21% improvement in power. Seems logical that Nissan would have some mathematical basis for upsizing the intercooler The first job is the to clean out the inside, there is always some oil film in there, regardless of how new the engine is. I will be using the usual 50/50 kero and metho mix, slosh it around and empty out. Keep doing that until it comes out clean. Then flush with hot water and leave in the sun to dry out. This is what the first flush of kero/metho looked like; ![]() And remember that's out of an R34GTT with ~30K's on it. What do you reckon the inside of your intercooler looks like? The standard Stage mounting brackets bolt straight up to the R34GTT intercooler, as per the following picture. As do the intercooler pipes, absolutely no modifications were required; ![]() To further improve the cooling, I want to have most of the air that goes through the LHS bumper vent go though the intercooler. Standard, around 30% of the air that goes though the vent, is ducted through the intercooler. This is the standard Stagea plastic ducting bolted onto the R34GTT intercooler. As you can see I had to redrill 1 of the three holes (RHS) and make up a spacer (strip of aluminium) for the third (top LHS). ![]() If you look at the above picture you can see where bugs have come in through the vent in the bumper and hit the plastic above the standard duct. This was a good hint on how to configure a larger vent. Notice how the standard Stagea plastic ducting is a bit short for the extra height of the R34GTT intercooler. The new piece of ducting also has to fix that. So the next job is to take the standard Stagea plastic intercooler ducting and add some aluminium to it to expand its dimensions to those closure to the vent. I cut a piece of alumium sheet to the right dimensions and bolted (3 X 6 mm bolts and nuts) it to the top of the ducting. Then I cut a triangular hole in the standard plastic ducting to enable the airflow trapped by the additional ducting to flow though the core. ![]() Then it is time to fit the R34GTT intercooler and ducting into the Stagea. Since the pipework is the same as the standard cooler this is a pretty simple job, no cutting or modification required. I did the install from underneath, with the front bumper in place, this made it easier for me to measure up the ducting. The next step is to give it a run up on the 4wd dyno and see what sort of results we get. I am anticipating a 25 to 30 rwkw increase from the intercooler and the exhaust upgrade. This is a bit more than you would expect from the parts alone, as I believe I can increase the boost with the IEBC by 0.1 bar and lean of the mixtures with the DFA to a more power friendly 12 to 1. Neither of which I can do at the moment because the standard Stagea ECU is a bit too smart. Removing the restrictions, particularly the exhaust, should mean I don't have to wind in as much correction. Hope you will enjoy reading about this as much as I will actually doing it. PS; this is a live post and will be updated as we go along, pictures and all. -------------------- Yes, SK is back from the sabbatical.
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Sydneykid Bump just in case it isn't noticed as it is ol... 31 Oct 2005, 08:16 PM
AMS Cheers Gary 31 Oct 2005, 08:27 PM
StageZilla sk i think u should write a book on modifying skyl... 31 Oct 2005, 09:10 PM
AMS QUOTE(StageZilla @ 31 Oct 2005, 09:10 PM)sk i... 31 Oct 2005, 09:33 PM
Sydneykid QUOTE(AMS @ 31 Oct 2005, 09:33 PM)That sounds... 1 Nov 2005, 11:16 PM
bwilkeson Off topic, sort-of.... Im selling my R34 GTT Inter... 11 Nov 2005, 08:40 AM
Sydneykid I am getting a few PM's about this upgrqade, s... 22 Aug 2006, 12:20 PM
dineth hey bit of dumb question to you SK, is a DFA a pi... 31 Oct 2006, 08:27 PM
wolverine i'm selling the SMIC too.
(so back to the t... 22 Aug 2006, 06:22 PM
FLYSLY yes it is, also if anyone is interested i have a R... 31 Oct 2006, 09:03 PM
AlexCim should have sold it 4 weeks ago...i'd have bou... 1 Nov 2006, 11:33 AM
FLYSLY whoops, why arent you putting a FMIC back in the s... 1 Nov 2006, 07:38 PM
AlexCim As of yet still to decide the fate of my stagea. I... 1 Nov 2006, 09:09 PM
FLYSLY how do you mean by fate as i thought you had made ... 1 Nov 2006, 09:33 PM
qikstagea Seems like all our cars chop and change fates on a... 1 Nov 2006, 09:39 PM
FLYSLY So true Rob i never know what im doing lol 1 Nov 2006, 10:12 PM
newbie101 Mega Bump!!!!
Don't try and do... 6 Apr 2007, 07:54 PM
siddr20 Got a quick question to SK and to all those who ha... 15 Jul 2007, 06:39 PM
wolverine the dents are not an issue. almost every standard... 15 Jul 2007, 09:24 PM
siddr20 my 33 doesnt have any dents lol.. but yea all good... 15 Jul 2007, 11:48 PM
GoldZilla Metho and kero in a 50/50 mix is the go. Make up ... 16 Jul 2007, 01:45 AM
ric777 Hi all
is an r33 s2 smic the same size as an r34 s... 14 Oct 2007, 03:00 PM
Munkyb0y no, R33 S2 and S1 intercoolers are the same
R34 i... 14 Oct 2007, 03:20 PM
gotRICE? This has been a great read!
I was lucky enough... 15 Oct 2007, 06:18 PM
Ryan1600 i found it was easier to fit the air guide once th... 12 Dec 2007, 04:22 PM
WOG BOY so can someone plz confirm for me....(honestly i d... 13 Dec 2007, 10:09 PM
Tangles Confirmed 14 Dec 2007, 08:34 AM
Ryan1600 QUOTE(WOG BOY @ 13 Dec 2007, 11:09 PM) so... 14 Dec 2007, 11:26 AM
gotRICE? QUOTE(WOG BOY @ 14 Dec 2007, 01:09 AM) so... 14 Dec 2007, 01:10 PM
WOG BOY ok, thanx heaps peeps.....my next upgrade is confi... 14 Dec 2007, 05:40 PM
Tangles they fit up no probs.
one prob, I suppose, may be... 14 Dec 2007, 06:00 PM
DaveB having trouble tracing the final progress of Sydne... 29 Mar 2008, 05:27 AM![]() ![]() |
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