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3 Jun 2003, 04:01 AM
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![]() Mo growin' since 06. ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 9,269 Joined: 14th April, 2002 From: Sydney Real Name: Christian Trader Rating : 9 Garage: GS500F |
Q; What is the difference between a series 1 and series 2 R33 Gtst?
A; There are several differences...
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3 Jun 2003, 04:01 AM
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26 Feb 2004, 11:06 PM
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Rank: RB25DE ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 421 Joined: 18th June, 2003 Trader Rating : 0 |
More trivial things include
- nissan badge that covers the keyhole in series 2 versus series 1 - mild change in rear spoiler design. - both series 1 and 2 both had ceramic-turbined turbos though the camshafts between the two are not interchangeable -------------------- MODS: Reliability :headspin:
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27 Feb 2004, 12:20 PM
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![]() Rank: RB25DET ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 729 Joined: 4th June, 2003 Trader Rating : 2 |
I can't get a straight answer on the wheels of the turbos. Some say they are both ceramic, some say s1 is and s2 isn't, others say the opposite. My belief is that they both were ceramic.
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28 Feb 2004, 04:27 PM
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![]() Traitor ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 813 Joined: 22nd February, 2004 From: NSW Car(s): BA Falcon Real Name: Vanessa the Undresser Trader Rating : 18 |
Also the S1 has an ignitor located on top of the motor at the back on the rocker cover near the firewall, whereas the S2 has the ignitor built into the ECU. Another small differance is the headlight backings, where S1 has black backing and S2 has chrome backing.
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11 Apr 2004, 12:21 AM
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![]() Whats A Turbo? ![]() ![]() Posts: 6,931 Joined: 3rd December, 2003 From: Melbourne Car(s): R33 Gts-t Series 2 Real Name: Kris Trader Rating : 3 Garage: Skyline R33 |
Also the Series 2 has a nicer steering wheel
Both the models have ceramic turbo's that y the first thing u should do is get rid of the stock one cuz it cracks easily and is weak. -------------------- |
27 Apr 2004, 02:41 PM
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![]() Rank: RB30E ![]() ![]() Posts: 2,275 Joined: 20th February, 2004 From: Brisbane Car(s): R33 GTS-T S2 Real Name: Dave Trader Rating : 5 |
Also, difference in front badging. S2 chrome and on the bonnet. S1 red and on grille. (ugly) I believe the seats are uprated to retrimmed recaros in the S2 also.
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1 May 2004, 08:46 PM
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![]() Rank: RB25DET ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 759 Joined: 7th October, 2003 Car(s): R33 GTST & 260Z Trader Rating : 1 |
There are some similarities though, i believe the 'different wing' on the Series II (think it's called an M-Spec?) also appeared on some of the series I (or 1.5) 33's as well. Plus the other day i saw the lower stock R33 Series I wing on a car that had the Series II skyline imprint on the boot, and not the panel of plastic. This may have been custom though.
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6 May 2004, 06:07 PM
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![]() Rank: RB25DE ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 114 Joined: 26th January, 2003 Trader Rating : 0 |
And the one that everyone always seems to miss... the front shocks/springs are different. Rears are still the same thou.
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7 May 2004, 09:53 PM
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![]() Now with Bavarian Power... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1,434 Joined: 3rd October, 2002 From: Perth Car(s): 2008 BMW 135i Trader Rating : 1 |
Cecam,
What's the different in the front shocks/springs? rates? dampening? -------------------- There's always something else to mod....
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9 May 2004, 07:43 PM
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![]() Rank: RB25DE ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 414 Joined: 21st March, 2004 Trader Rating : 0 |
i heard the S1 turbo is much more better then the s2 ?
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11 May 2004, 04:46 AM
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Rank: RB20DE ![]() ![]() Posts: 19 Joined: 3rd January, 2003 Trader Rating : 0 |
here is something else for you, in 1995 there was a series II also, it had the series I front, but had the series II engine, dual airbags, colour coded rear skyline badge, updated interior, different seat trim to 93-94, not the same as 96, series II instrument panel, series II floor mats.
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15 May 2004, 12:07 PM
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![]() Rank: RB25DE ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 269 Joined: 29th January, 2004 Trader Rating : 2 |
yep i got one of em alpharisc mines a dec 95
series1 but series 2 motor don't have dual airbags but i got s2 lights and rear color coded panel |
4 Jun 2004, 11:55 AM
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![]() random engine ![]() Posts: 2,701 Joined: 2nd July, 2002 From: Sydney Car(s): 95 GTR33, 02 GSXR1000 Real Name: Jim Trader Rating : 11 |
Here's what my '95 R33 has, which is still a bit different again. Not sure when it was made other than 1995.
Series 1 - front bar, steering wheel, with airbag, interior (velour) but with updated pattern (not quite as dark), rear badge (clear plastic and silver letters, not colour coded). Series 2 - wing, engine, boot lid badge (titanium) ??? - instrument cluster (I wouldn't know the difference), suspension ??? - grille (which I quite like) that's kind of like a rounded GTR grille rather than the slat style of most that I've seen. I think this was just a factory option though, I've seen very few around, and some '95 models with the slat grille. NO passenger air bag And while we are dumping shit on other people's Skylines, I would just like to say that the indicators on the Series 2 front bar look like huge blocks of Lego (blerghhh!) |
10 Jun 2004, 11:45 PM
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![]() Rank: RB25DE ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 208 Joined: 31st October, 2002 Trader Rating : 0 |
I'm pretty sure the turbo's in series 1's & 1.5's (mixture of production model 1 & 2) Are ceramic, whereas the Series two turbo's were plastic (to increase spooling time). Think this is up on a Japanese website somewhere...will try to find the link.
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12 Jun 2004, 08:39 PM
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![]() Rank: RB30E ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2,272 Joined: 25th March, 2003 From: Sydney Car(s): R33 GTS-T Trader Rating : 12 |
everyone mixes answers to which turbo is which up
this is the difference. the series one AND two exhaust wheels are ceramic, and prone to delaminating from the shaft, due to excess heat and resistance, resulting in bits of tubo stuck in your cat The difference is in the intake side. The intake wheel of a series one turbo is steel, where in a series two (and even r34 gtt) has a nylon wheel. this results in a quicker spool up. the problem is not with the intake side of the turbo, its the exhaust, so if you had to compare the two, the series 1 turbo is no less likely to fail than a series 2 turbo. |
18 Jun 2004, 07:32 PM
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![]() Rank: RB25DE ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 269 Joined: 29th January, 2004 Trader Rating : 2 |
ya wanna look at something that stuff everything ya wrote?
check out my car i have a 95 series 1 u think? its a late 95 december actually some majority of s2 parts are in mine except the dual airbag like vvt and color parts at the back list goes on |
19 Jun 2004, 07:34 PM
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