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3 Jul 2009, 10:43 PM
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![]() GO21LA ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1,951 Joined: 20th January, 2004 From: Sydney Car(s): RB26/30 GTR Trader Rating : 14 |
my last post was clear as mud, the point i wanted to make is that its like shifting a truck with the low rev limit.
i havent been that gentle with it -------------------- I'm just really stunned for words. I can't believe the reception. I thought Australian race fans had a lot more going than this. This is a bloody disgrace. This is going to remain with me for a long time...
you're a pack of arseholes! Jim Richards, October 1992 Bathurst. ![]() ![]() |
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3 Jul 2009, 10:43 PM
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3 Jul 2009, 10:58 PM
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![]() GO21LA ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1,951 Joined: 20th January, 2004 From: Sydney Car(s): RB26/30 GTR Trader Rating : 14 |
How much head work did you get done by Greg @ proengines...? I have a 30 built by Greg and just sent a 26 head over for a little upgrade. Will be interested to see how your setup goes. I will be running a T51 with 1.05 rear and C4 auto. im running stock valves, 14hrs of porting was done blending bowls, open exhaust ports, spot face for larger lobes, match port manifolds and full service head if i missed anything im sure greg will correct me -------------------- I'm just really stunned for words. I can't believe the reception. I thought Australian race fans had a lot more going than this. This is a bloody disgrace. This is going to remain with me for a long time...
you're a pack of arseholes! Jim Richards, October 1992 Bathurst. ![]() ![]() |
3 Jul 2009, 11:46 PM
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World Leader ![]() ![]() Posts: 12,250 Joined: 13th June, 2005 From: The Switch Car(s): Gtr aka Garden Gnome Real Name: Shane Trader Rating : 8 |
All calm...sorry Shane...buddy cuddle? Nothing DiRTy about a 30...lol...ive just bought a nice set of Argo's...hehe Yes Marko...give it some stick! ok paul, but be gentle Paul, that forklift is a diesel, maybe you should post it in the diesel block thread? At least the Nissan is infront of the Volvo. Yeah Marko/Greg that would be good, im looking for someone to do headwork for me very soon, my normal guy is tied up for ages. Looking for max flow. I know a mob in S.A. have got some good numbers, but local would be nice steve, flow figures should only be used as a guide, if u go chasing 'max flow' u'll prolly find the head will be worse than a stocker. the results u get from a flow bench are only static volumes, i.e flow in cfm is only measured at set lift heights and they dont take into consideration the rapid change of lift variations from an engine running in the real world (valves open/closed thousands of times and varying amounts) have a look at the thread i posted about a head i had done recently -------------------- |
4 Jul 2009, 08:00 AM
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![]() RB31DET ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 11,641 Joined: 31st January, 2003 From: Sydney Car(s): R32GTST R33GTST Stagea Trader Rating : 50 |
hey nick - jim wants me to take it to 1500km, he will then raise the rev limit from 5000rpm to probably 8000rpm? he will also raise boost to 13psi & lean out the fuel, as advised. he then wants me to take it to 5000km then perform the final tune with full boost & dialled cams...jim is being overly cautious which isnt a bad way to operate. ...im not waiting that long, as advised by greg @ proengines, do the 1500km then let it rip - the block was 'tunnel honed' which helps rings bed in. Add me to the Paul and Rob list. I've posted it up eleventy billion times, run engine for 20 minutes, until it is nice and evenly warmed up to operating termperature and change the oil filter. Then drive to Bathurst, have breakfast with the guys to let the engine cool a bit and then drive back, that's around 450 k's. What I don't see on the list above is the next step which is "check the leak down". That will tell you if the rings are beded in, the bearings were run in by the time you got it out of the driveway. If the leak down test is OK, then drop the mineral oil, change the filter again, fill 'er up with synthetic and off for the final tune. This pussy footing around for thousands of k's achieves nothing. Cheers Gary -------------------- Yes, SK is back from the sabbatical.
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4 Jul 2009, 08:22 AM
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![]() GO21LA ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1,951 Joined: 20th January, 2004 From: Sydney Car(s): RB26/30 GTR Trader Rating : 14 |
a. the 1st 300km i ran run-in oil
b. im now running a new filter with mineral oil c. next change @ 1500km to full synthetic im doing the bathurst run tomorrow rob & paul...am i really that bad with my emails -------------------- I'm just really stunned for words. I can't believe the reception. I thought Australian race fans had a lot more going than this. This is a bloody disgrace. This is going to remain with me for a long time...
you're a pack of arseholes! Jim Richards, October 1992 Bathurst. ![]() ![]() |
4 Jul 2009, 08:26 AM
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![]() Official RH9 club member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 6,938 Joined: 23rd September, 2005 From: Newcastle Australia Car(s): 9.4 sec street GTR Trader Rating : 43 |
come for a drive today....Guilt-Toy is having a dyno day.
Marko if you are a good fella...we are just having a niggle...lol |
4 Jul 2009, 09:00 AM
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![]() GO21LA ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1,951 Joined: 20th January, 2004 From: Sydney Car(s): RB26/30 GTR Trader Rating : 14 |
is that newcastle? i can make it after lunch (going baby shopping 1st), send address details
regards, good fella -------------------- I'm just really stunned for words. I can't believe the reception. I thought Australian race fans had a lot more going than this. This is a bloody disgrace. This is going to remain with me for a long time...
you're a pack of arseholes! Jim Richards, October 1992 Bathurst. ![]() ![]() |
4 Jul 2009, 11:11 AM
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![]() owner since '01 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1,833 Joined: 18th June, 2003 From: Brisbane Car(s): '93 HCR32 & '99 JDM S15 Real Name: Mick Trader Rating : 24 |
I might as well throw this in here
Is there any difference between the standard r32 and r33 gtr water pumps apart from the price? If it makes any difference my 2630 is going into a r32 gtst cheers marko -------------------- |
4 Jul 2009, 02:17 PM
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![]() Rank: RB25DE ![]() Posts: 390 Joined: 22nd December, 2003 Car(s): Brumby, WRX, Landrover Real Name: Greg Trader Rating : 1 |
Marko, that was torqe plate honed. As I said, oil change @ 500, one after that and let rip.
I saw a car driving along the shoulder of one of the parkways here doing about 20km/h with RUNNING IN on a big cardboard sign in the back window. sometimes you've got to laugh. -------------------- |
4 Jul 2009, 08:34 PM
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![]() Its a shame those who know it all, cant do it all. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2,400 Joined: 17th August, 2004 From: Brisbane, Everton Park Car(s): 96 R33, R1, Hilux Real Name: Michael Trader Rating : 1 |
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These guys are pretty cool. *6BOOST*KYLE :0410 730 598* *SPOOL IMPORTS*BRAD:0402 351 688* *MERCURY MOTORSPORT*TRENT:07 3352 3363* *PLR ENGINE RECONDITIONING*JOHN:07 3881 1342* |
4 Jul 2009, 08:59 PM
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![]() RB26DETT ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 300 Joined: 18th April, 2007 From: Western sydney Car(s): BNR32, DATO 510 SR22VET Real Name: Ben Trader Rating : 2 |
^^ Yep..thats the correct way to break in an engine properly.
All my engines in the past were fired up on the engine dyno...oil temp reached,then start giving it a few pulls under load to 5000rpm..then pull the string and give it everything . Engines leak down perfectly. No way would i be pussy footing around for hundreds or thousands of kays. Start giving it boost & rpm. Motor initially run with penrite mineral oil ..half a dozen full power pulls made..then oil & filter dumped switched to royal purple 10-40,then back into it with full power runs. Only way to do it . And i have seen hundreds of engines dynoed & run this same way..all with the same results. -------------------- |
5 Jul 2009, 06:44 AM
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![]() GO21LA ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1,951 Joined: 20th January, 2004 From: Sydney Car(s): RB26/30 GTR Trader Rating : 14 |
Marko, that was torqe plate honed. As I said, oil change @ 500, one after that and let rip. you know what i mean - hopefully the others got the jist -------------------- I'm just really stunned for words. I can't believe the reception. I thought Australian race fans had a lot more going than this. This is a bloody disgrace. This is going to remain with me for a long time...
you're a pack of arseholes! Jim Richards, October 1992 Bathurst. ![]() ![]() |
5 Jul 2009, 06:51 AM
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![]() GO21LA ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1,951 Joined: 20th January, 2004 From: Sydney Car(s): RB26/30 GTR Trader Rating : 14 |
i remember coming across this article a while back when i had my bike - there are a few guys on gixxer.com which swear by this method - it is a good read -------------------- I'm just really stunned for words. I can't believe the reception. I thought Australian race fans had a lot more going than this. This is a bloody disgrace. This is going to remain with me for a long time...
you're a pack of arseholes! Jim Richards, October 1992 Bathurst. ![]() ![]() |
5 Jul 2009, 06:00 PM
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Rank: RB25DET ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 583 Joined: 20th September, 2005 From: sydney Car(s): S15 RB26/31 Trader Rating : 2 |
told you you'd like the clutch.....
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6 Jul 2009, 07:51 AM
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![]() GO21LA ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1,951 Joined: 20th January, 2004 From: Sydney Car(s): RB26/30 GTR Trader Rating : 14 |
told you you'd like the clutch..... good work Marko dennis, its drives like a normal clutch, i gave it the wife test and she couldnt believe it as well, after having a triple then twin plate i will never go back. ive been questioning JB clutches and had the opportunity to get 1 two times in the past but i chickened out my mentality was "as if an aust single plate can hold like a jap multi plate"...i should have listened to paul from the onset -------------------- I'm just really stunned for words. I can't believe the reception. I thought Australian race fans had a lot more going than this. This is a bloody disgrace. This is going to remain with me for a long time...
you're a pack of arseholes! Jim Richards, October 1992 Bathurst. ![]() ![]() |
6 Jul 2009, 09:37 AM
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![]() Its a shame those who know it all, cant do it all. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2,400 Joined: 17th August, 2004 From: Brisbane, Everton Park Car(s): 96 R33, R1, Hilux Real Name: Michael Trader Rating : 1 |
how light could it be? The NPC Twin plate we have in the race car is lighter then the single plate in my road car....it shits me, because it shouldnt be like that!
-------------------- Wanna see something abit different...My RB25DE Supercharger Build Project
These guys are pretty cool. *6BOOST*KYLE :0410 730 598* *SPOOL IMPORTS*BRAD:0402 351 688* *MERCURY MOTORSPORT*TRENT:07 3352 3363* *PLR ENGINE RECONDITIONING*JOHN:07 3881 1342* |
6 Jul 2009, 09:50 AM
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![]() GO21LA ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1,951 Joined: 20th January, 2004 From: Sydney Car(s): RB26/30 GTR Trader Rating : 14 |
it feels like a standard gtr clutch just a bit springier (for lack of a better word) - you would never know its modified.
after looking at it, i think its the way he utilisies the thrust bearing on the clutch fingers as it sits closer to the tip of the fingers on diaphram then what it did on my previous twin plate. its get more leverage like this & it feels nice with the 4000lbs pressure plate - maybe u should speak to jim berry direct about this, he'll chew both of your ears off -------------------- I'm just really stunned for words. I can't believe the reception. I thought Australian race fans had a lot more going than this. This is a bloody disgrace. This is going to remain with me for a long time...
you're a pack of arseholes! Jim Richards, October 1992 Bathurst. ![]() ![]() |
6 Jul 2009, 01:15 PM
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![]() γγΌγ«η·η΅ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 20,950 Joined: 9th May, 2003 From: West Shinjuku MOS Burger Car(s): 32GTR 34GTR S13 Truck RX7 Real Name: Richard Trader Rating : 150 |
definitely do not wait 5000kms to give it the full tune and full boost. the engine will be half worn out by then let alone run in!! lol.
listen to greg. he built the thing. between 1000kms and 5000kms nothing is going to be achieved by running on a rich, conservatively timed, low boost, low rpm tune. except frustrations and boredom! if you've done 1000kms then it's well and truly ready for the full ponies! -------------------- Beer Baron's Japan Photo Diary. CLICK HERE!
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6 Jul 2009, 01:22 PM
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![]() GO21LA ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1,951 Joined: 20th January, 2004 From: Sydney Car(s): RB26/30 GTR Trader Rating : 14 |
thats my decision beer baron - its greg build hence what he says goes
-------------------- I'm just really stunned for words. I can't believe the reception. I thought Australian race fans had a lot more going than this. This is a bloody disgrace. This is going to remain with me for a long time...
you're a pack of arseholes! Jim Richards, October 1992 Bathurst. ![]() ![]() |
6 Jul 2009, 10:33 PM
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![]() Ricer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1,254 Joined: 14th August, 2006 From: Perth Car(s): NISSAN Real Name: Jack Daniels Trader Rating : 9 |
how light could it be? The NPC Twin plate we have in the race car is lighter then the single plate in my road car....it shits me, because it shouldnt be like that! Is that the solid or sprung centre NPC twin plate? Looking Good Marko! Where'd you get the silicon hose cooler kit and fuel rail from? Thanks -------------------- Flip a Coin when life gets tough!
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