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22 Feb 2005, 05:02 PM
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![]() Mo growin' since 06. ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 9,269 Joined: 14th April, 2002 From: Sydney Real Name: Christian Trader Rating : 9 Garage: GS500F |
Ok guys, I have decided to do the conversion, I just cant stand driving the auto anymore (I have been using our Mirage every opurtunity i get because its manual).
Now, the trickiest thing that I can think of is moving the handbrake up to its normal position so it doesnt get in the way of the clutch (wouldnt that be fun!).
So looking forward to doing this... Christian! -------------------- |
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22 Feb 2005, 08:09 PM
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![]() Rank: RB25DE ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 104 Joined: 4th July, 2004 Trader Rating : 0 |
QUOTE(PranK) Ok guys, I have decided to do the conversion, I just cant stand driving the auto anymore (I have been using our Mirage every opurtunity i get because its manual). Now, the trickiest thing that I can think of is moving the handbrake up to its normal position so it doesnt get in the way of the clutch (wouldnt that be fun!).
So looking forward to doing this... Christian! hey prank well heres the best info i can describe in words to ya, and probably forgot some of it too gtr 5 speed box gtr clutch master cylinder gtr clutch vacuum booster gtr clutch vacuum canister gtr slave cylinder r33 gts-t handbrake (fits perfect) first thing is to mount the vacuum booster and clutch master cylinder to the firewall and with my rb26 engine (not sure on rb25) it wouldnt clear the plenum, so, the vacuum booster had to be recessed into the firewall about 40mm to give clearance, and we got a piece of 4" exhuast pipe, cut it to 40mm length, then welded a flat plate onto one end of it for the pedal box to bolt onto, and the other end has a flange about 10mm all the way around the outside of the pipe. needs a centre hole cutout about the size of a 20c peice and then two holes need to be drilled for the studs on the clutch vacuum booster. now to find the right place to cut the firewall now the clutch pedal box will bolt onto the peice i made, and the top bolt holes from the old footbrake are used, only 1 lines up with the help of filing the pedal box hole abit bigger, and then we welded abit of steel bar off the side to drill a hole in it to bolt it up in the 2 factory spots the r33 gts-t handbrake is easy to install i used two decent sized bolts to mount it, had to remove drivers side seat to get the drill in to drill the two holes ill post up bits and pieces as i remember hope it helps cheers Brad -------------------- VL Calais RB26DETT 350rwhp, 12.04 @ 118mph
NEW SETUP: 96 Nissan Stagea with rb26dett engine, gtr 5 speed, highflow turbos, twin 3" dumps, single 4' magic cat into 3.5' all way to rear apexi muffler, 17psi boost, autronics smc, sard 700cc injectors, twin 3" inlet pipes with K&N pod filters, 3" cooler piping, custom bov, gtr intercooler, twin plate clutch, lowered, 17" rims, dual sunroofs mmm, 2 weeks and counting :cheers: hopefully :) |
22 Feb 2005, 08:27 PM
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![]() Rank: RB30E ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2,870 Joined: 21st April, 2002 From: Canberra Trader Rating : 40 |
This is gunna be a great thread.
Would be great if we can get a parts list together and a 'how to' for the tricky bits that pop up in the swap over If it takes off maybe we should sticky it ?? J |
24 Feb 2005, 01:16 PM
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![]() Park it like its hhhhot. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 538 Joined: 25th March, 2003 From: QBN, NSW Car(s): R32GTR, R32 GTS25 Real Name: Geordie Trader Rating : 4 |
I heard the tail shaft needs to be replaced aswell?
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24 Feb 2005, 01:25 PM
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![]() Speed... I am Speed ![]() Posts: 3,452 Joined: 15th June, 2003 From: Bathurst Car(s): VT Commonbore Wagon Real Name: Leshy Trader Rating : 8 |
You could patent the "Stagea manual conversion kit" and make money.. oh wait, give it to us first though
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2 Mar 2005, 09:39 PM
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![]() Rank: RB25DE ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 104 Joined: 4th July, 2004 Trader Rating : 0 |
the stagea auto tailshaft fits perfecto
also a hole needs to be cut for the shifter (i did one about 2.5" round in the centre of the plate under the console) with the wiring side of things i just been doin yesterday, the neutral safety switch is one of the four plugs that are on the drivers side chassis in the engine bay (left from the auto gearbox wiring), it has 2 fat thick wires, well u just need to join the 2 and ya sweet :wassup: reverse lights are one of the other 3 plugs (the grey one which has about 7 wires) and the reverse lights r the green wire and the black wire which join to the switch on the manual gearbox to activate reverse lights r33 handbrake is a peice of piss to fit, and the cable is exactly the right length when u disconnect it under the car, and join the first section from the r33 handbrake onto the 2 pins under the car for the rear half of the stagea cables once ive got my car on the road and i have some spare time ill draw up a diagram of the clutch vacuum booster holder thing i made oh also for the clutch system u need to get hold of a gtr clutch/brake vacuum canister which sites in the bay hard against the drivers side gaurd closest to the firewall (about 4" in diameter and 200mm long with 2 outlets). u need a one way valve also so it doesnt explode on boost ill get the exact part number of the vacuum canister in the next few days and ill post it up cheers and hope it helps guys Brad -------------------- VL Calais RB26DETT 350rwhp, 12.04 @ 118mph
NEW SETUP: 96 Nissan Stagea with rb26dett engine, gtr 5 speed, highflow turbos, twin 3" dumps, single 4' magic cat into 3.5' all way to rear apexi muffler, 17psi boost, autronics smc, sard 700cc injectors, twin 3" inlet pipes with K&N pod filters, 3" cooler piping, custom bov, gtr intercooler, twin plate clutch, lowered, 17" rims, dual sunroofs mmm, 2 weeks and counting :cheers: hopefully :) |
5 Mar 2005, 11:36 AM
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![]() Mean. ![]() Posts: 3,157 Joined: 9th February, 2004 From: Southern Gold Coast Car(s): Black S15 200sx Real Name: Samantha Trader Rating : 3 |
How much do you all think this will cost?
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6 Mar 2005, 09:21 PM
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Rank: RB25DE ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 488 Joined: 7th June, 2004 Trader Rating : 1 |
do you need to change the ecu or is the auto ecu the same as the man ecu ???
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8 Mar 2005, 07:10 PM
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![]() Rank: RB25DE ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 104 Joined: 4th July, 2004 Trader Rating : 0 |
hey guys well im not sure about the auto ecu and whether it can run correctly without the gearbox, maybe sydneykid knows, and i remember him saying that i couldnt run the stagea auto ecu with my rb25 (stagea engine) in the VL becuase it was manual, i used a normal rb25 engine ecu from a gts-t manual and it runs the engine exactly same as stagea, BUT engine loom would have to be the gts-t manual one and that means u got to intergrate it into the stagea stock harness becuase they also have wires running non engine related stuff like passenger indicator, abs, etc.
sounds like alot of hasle for a manual conversion but id say its worth it and u are gonna mod more in the future costs well i paid $1K for gtr 5 speed, and clutch depends on ya $$ situation cause twin plate 800hp from direct clutch in QLD cost me $1600 but its brilliant and light as hell and ally flywheel also then ya got: clutch pedal box from stagea 260rs would be the best cause it will definately fit and available from nissan brand new, not sure on $$$. clutch vacuum booster same as above clutch master cylinder as above i got a autech genuine pedal so i dunno what will fit... master to slave steel line gtr slave cylinder r33 handbrake thats about all i bought my manual conversion stuff off the forums and got a bloody bargain anyway thats it Brad -------------------- VL Calais RB26DETT 350rwhp, 12.04 @ 118mph
NEW SETUP: 96 Nissan Stagea with rb26dett engine, gtr 5 speed, highflow turbos, twin 3" dumps, single 4' magic cat into 3.5' all way to rear apexi muffler, 17psi boost, autronics smc, sard 700cc injectors, twin 3" inlet pipes with K&N pod filters, 3" cooler piping, custom bov, gtr intercooler, twin plate clutch, lowered, 17" rims, dual sunroofs mmm, 2 weeks and counting :cheers: hopefully :) |
8 Apr 2005, 09:28 PM
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Rank: RB25DE ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 375 Joined: 26th March, 2005 Trader Rating : 3 |
Stock 32 GTR and 32 GTS4 5 speed gearbox should be identical external and internal.
I think I have master clutch cilinder with booster in garage somewhere. |
3 May 2005, 06:04 PM
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Slideways ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 264 Joined: 1st July, 2002 From: Brisbane Car(s): 180sx type X Real Name: Gary Trader Rating : 0 |
The ecu is a nightmare of a job to get a plug and play tem such as power fc..... anything else piggy back, no problems... I have put a power fc in my stagea ( with alot of messing around )and it is good. Only real drama was the a/c and a few sensors. Unfortunately Apexi dont make a power fc for a manual rb25 stagea, they do however make one for the rb26 stagea. Go figure. I too did the manual conversion, its a bit of a job.... you need as mnay hands as you can get..
Its fun to drive now, i've even chopped a few GTR's and they don't like it, but you do get the good one who compliments your car and say's ' i can't believe i got owned by a wagon'...........music to my ears...lol Cheers Gary -------------------- Not another bloody Volvo driver |
3 May 2005, 10:42 PM
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![]() Rank: RB25DE ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 314 Joined: 25th August, 2002 From: Central Coast Trader Rating : 2 |
Any details of the process or pricing... or even pics Gary? I'm seriously considering this as one of my first mods on the stagea.
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5 May 2005, 06:09 AM
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Slideways ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 264 Joined: 1st July, 2002 From: Brisbane Car(s): 180sx type X Real Name: Gary Trader Rating : 0 |
Pricing, I paid too much as i think i was the first person un Aus to try i t so there was a bit of trial and error..lol
Pickies, yeah i can take a few and post them up no worries, won't be until tomorrow tho. Cheers Gary -------------------- Not another bloody Volvo driver |
19 May 2005, 08:28 PM
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![]() Rank: RB25DE ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 190 Joined: 12th October, 2004 Trader Rating : 0 |
Yea Im also goin to do this conversion. Should be good. So Gray1, how well does your stegea go now? Compared to when it was auto?
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20 May 2005, 02:06 AM
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Slideways ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 264 Joined: 1st July, 2002 From: Brisbane Car(s): 180sx type X Real Name: Gary Trader Rating : 0 |
Car goes much better and much better to drive..... I hate auto's.......New turbo and plenum and manifold are the next mods..
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