 Joeyjoejoe's E85 Tuning Adventutres, now with more killerwatts!11ty |
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 26 Feb 2009, 06:10 PM
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 it's all about the offset    Posts: 8,437 Joined: 27th March, 2007 From: melb south east Car(s): 300rwkw r33, 4age-KE70 Real Name: Hamish Trader Rating : 0 Garage: R33 GTS-T  |
ok so i finally got my car back today and decided to try this e85 everyone's talking about....
i went on a mission to hoppers crossing united and picked up 40lt for the bargain price of $39.90!!!   i then went on my road trip to my tuner, Rob @ CREATD.... car : 94 r33 gtst with an UNOPENED rb25. turbo : HKS 2835 pro s (.68) fuel system : nismo 555cc injectors, nismo pump management : power fc we first did a pulp run for comparison's sake and got 270rwkw... then we dumped the tank and poured in the jingle juice... the first thing you notice is the smell... its sweet... real sweet... turned the key and when the e85 filtered through the idle was pretty horrible, but livable, the afr's were off... but we gave it a pull just to see the diff off the bat without any fiddling... 278rwkw... not bad... after a few more pulls and some extra fuel + timing we ended up with 311rwkw!  below is a comparison graph with pulp (green) and e85 (red)   the tune is now nice and tidy, and the car starts, idle's and runs like a dream. the 311 rwkw is insane with full boost by 3500 traction is now non-existant (with 5/7 greddy coils, positive camber, sways etc) so after day 1 of e85, i am a VERY VERY happy camper! i even went back and filled the car up and grabbed another 40 lt in the jerry's... gonna run it for a full week as a test and make my descisions then... but so far, DAMN good! below is a link to the vid of the 311 run: 311 rwkw dyno pull  BIG thanx once again to Rob @ CREATD for yet another bang up tune!!! --------------------  W.T.B. BLACK Driftek's x2 in 17x9.5+18... pm me |
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26 Feb 2009, 06:10 PM
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26 Feb 2009, 06:16 PM
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 Computer Says No!   Posts: 5,263 Joined: 1st February, 2005 From: Canberra Car(s): ECR33 & MX83R & JZZ30 Real Name: Werdna Eertneerg Trader Rating : 5 Garage: Skyline ECR33 Gts-t Ser.1 |
Very Very Nice Result
 What sort of duty cycles were you hitting with the 555's? P.S I Want your Car!!! --------------------  Stripping R33 Gtst, So Click me for awesome deals! QUOTE (itsme @ 25 Aug 2010, 02:15 PM)  I'm on a boat + repeat button = appropriate R33 playlist |
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26 Feb 2009, 06:20 PM
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it's all about the offset Posts: 8,437 Joined: 27th March, 2007 From: melb south east Car(s): 300rwkw r33, 4age-KE70 Real Name: Hamish Trader Rating : 0 Garage: R33 GTS-T |
DC never went past 85%
-------------------- W.T.B. BLACK Driftek's x2 in 17x9.5+18... pm me |
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26 Feb 2009, 06:20 PM
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 Two Litre V8 Eater  Posts: 1,138 Joined: 1st December, 2004 From: My mummy's tummy in Armadale WA Car(s): R32 Sedan & R31 Race Car Real Name: Allen Trader Rating : 1 Garage: HCR32 |
QUOTE (joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo @ 26 Feb 2009, 05:10 PM) so after day 1 of e85, i am a VERY VERY happy camper! i even went back and filled the car up and grabbed another 40 lt in the jerry's... gonna run it for a full week as a test and make my descisions then... but so far, DAMN good! I don't wanna rain on your parade but if you go for a run and need to fuel up with ULP, won't the car run like shit because of the different fuel? The e85 sounds good and looks like a winner. It's not like it'll happen everyday but keeping the boot full of jerrys for an extended run is what you'll have to keep in mind. We don't have it over here yet but I'll be keeping an eye out for it. -------------------- If you enjoy cruises and cruising, give West Coast Cruisers a go http://www.westcoastcruisers.com.au |
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26 Feb 2009, 06:21 PM
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 Gerkin powered extremist!! Posts: 2,395 Joined: 10th September, 2005 From: The Shed Car(s): 34&62 Ford r33 gts-t Real Name: Gus aka Bung Trader Rating : 1 |
Nice work Mr Shabadoo, have you tried the current tune running normal 100ron just incase you get stuck with no e85 available?
Will it ping it's ass off and be a limp home prospect or still be safe under normal driving? -------------------- Scientists taught a monkey to type, I ask to what end?
If you can't understand a word that he writes. QUOTE(madevo3 @ 28 Jun 2008, 08:18 PM) yeah cops are f**kheads all need running over and they dont have a clue what they are on about. and they say that they are illegal thats full of shit cause turbo cars come with them standard from the factory and they still make a noise. you up the boost a bit in them and they get loud so the cop was just being a asshole like they always are. and he FLOODY ya better open ya eyes to the cops man they do it all the time just to be a smart ass but surppose they wouldnt look at you in ya car seems ya drive like an old fart. I like Riddles and Adventure :) |
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26 Feb 2009, 06:23 PM
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 Rank: RB25DE Posts: 239 Joined: 3rd August, 2005 From: Sothern Highlands, NSW Trader Rating : 0 |
Yea dude ur 33's tough, love it..
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 R33 GTSt 95, RB25, CP, Eagle, 620cc, N1 Oil, N1 Water, Thermo, GT3582R, Dump n Exhaust 3" HKS, Splitfire, Exedy Cage, GReddy gadgets, Autometer, Tein Coilovers, EDFC, G4 355mm, Caster n Camber, some other crap... Makes 270kw...Engine number 4 FTW! |
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26 Feb 2009, 06:27 PM
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 Most viewed Admin of all time: 71,724 views   Posts: 30,533 Joined: 3rd August, 2002 From: Collingwood - Vic Car(s): HR31 GTS-R Trader Rating : 9 |
Ye its good fuel no doubt - Matt who is tuning EVO after EVO at the moment is seeing crazy gains.
Only issue's i have - its not widespread enough here in Vic yet really... and the price isn't really reflective in terms of economy. Economy is worse than good pump... depends on the use of the car -------------------- SAU-Vic President - 2008, 2009, 2010
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26 Feb 2009, 06:28 PM
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it's all about the offset Posts: 8,437 Joined: 27th March, 2007 From: melb south east Car(s): 300rwkw r33, 4age-KE70 Real Name: Hamish Trader Rating : 0 Garage: R33 GTS-T |
nope, just use my laptop and datalogit if i need to change maps....
car will run mostly on pulp till e85 is more redily available -------------------- W.T.B. BLACK Driftek's x2 in 17x9.5+18... pm me |
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26 Feb 2009, 06:32 PM
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it's all about the offset Posts: 8,437 Joined: 27th March, 2007 From: melb south east Car(s): 300rwkw r33, 4age-KE70 Real Name: Hamish Trader Rating : 0 Garage: R33 GTS-T |
QUOTE (R31Nismoid @ 26 Feb 2009, 07:27 PM) Ye its good fuel no doubt - Matt who is tuning EVO after EVO at the moment is seeing crazy gains. Only issue's i have - its not widespread enough here in Vic yet really... and the price isn't really reflective in terms of economy. Economy is worse than good pump... depends on the use of the car yeah, so far the consumption is alright... ill post more details in a week (i ripped through nearly 40lt today  )-------------------- W.T.B. BLACK Driftek's x2 in 17x9.5+18... pm me |
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26 Feb 2009, 06:45 PM
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Rank: RB25DET Posts: 555 Joined: 6th November, 2008 Car(s): Eunos , Gtr Real Name: Jenno Trader Rating : 10 |
looks very impressive mate, good results.
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26 Feb 2009, 06:45 PM
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 Rank: RB25DE  Posts: 367 Joined: 16th January, 2007 Car(s): R33 96 GTS-T Real Name: Adrian Trader Rating : 4 |
good result, how much timing did you settle on at full load and what afr?
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26 Feb 2009, 06:47 PM
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it's all about the offset Posts: 8,437 Joined: 27th March, 2007 From: melb south east Car(s): 300rwkw r33, 4age-KE70 Real Name: Hamish Trader Rating : 0 Garage: R33 GTS-T |
i'll grab that info when i get back to the tuner.... cant remember off the top of my head
-------------------- W.T.B. BLACK Driftek's x2 in 17x9.5+18... pm me |
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26 Feb 2009, 06:58 PM
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 Rank: RB25DET Posts: 1,100 Joined: 29th November, 2004 From: Strathfield Car(s): R33 GTST Real Name: Shane Trader Rating : 8 |
Looks good, how long did it take on the dyno to get that result?
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26 Feb 2009, 07:00 PM
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Rank: RB25DE Posts: 367 Joined: 16th January, 2007 Car(s): R33 96 GTS-T Real Name: Adrian Trader Rating : 4 |
no probs, you won't gain much more up top as i think the .68 would be close to max but you could gain more midrange pushing more psi into it.
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26 Feb 2009, 07:07 PM
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 Rank: RB26DE Posts: 17,499 Joined: 27th June, 2002 Trader Rating : 13 |
Good results, but am i reading right that you are now running more boost?
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26 Feb 2009, 07:07 PM
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it's all about the offset Posts: 8,437 Joined: 27th March, 2007 From: melb south east Car(s): 300rwkw r33, 4age-KE70 Real Name: Hamish Trader Rating : 0 Garage: R33 GTS-T |
yeah, i recon i could get 320 with the cam gear, but i decided not to push it anymore
(+ i want the response)it took probably 2 hours tuning.... (we chat a lot, we really only did like 10 pulls) -------------------- W.T.B. BLACK Driftek's x2 in 17x9.5+18... pm me |
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26 Feb 2009, 07:11 PM
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it's all about the offset Posts: 8,437 Joined: 27th March, 2007 From: melb south east Car(s): 300rwkw r33, 4age-KE70 Real Name: Hamish Trader Rating : 0 Garage: R33 GTS-T |
QUOTE (Roy @ 26 Feb 2009, 08:07 PM) Good results, but am i reading right that you are now running more boost? yeah, its on 18psi for the e85, and 16 for the pulp, as the pulp tune wasn't gaining any more at that pressure -------------------- W.T.B. BLACK Driftek's x2 in 17x9.5+18... pm me |
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26 Feb 2009, 07:13 PM
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Rank: RB26DE Posts: 17,499 Joined: 27th June, 2002 Trader Rating : 13 |
QUOTE (joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo @ 26 Feb 2009, 07:11 PM) yeah, its on 18psi for the e85, and 16 for the pulp, as the pulp tune wasn't gaining any more at that pressure Awesome, thats what i wanted to read -------------------- Minister of RB20 propaganda TD06-20G! Ridding the world of fossil fuels! |
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26 Feb 2009, 07:15 PM
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it's all about the offset Posts: 8,437 Joined: 27th March, 2007 From: melb south east Car(s): 300rwkw r33, 4age-KE70 Real Name: Hamish Trader Rating : 0 Garage: R33 GTS-T |
yeah this e85 is GOOOD stuff...
and the best part is that i have the power of a 3037 with the response of a 2835.... cake and eat it and so on -------------------- W.T.B. BLACK Driftek's x2 in 17x9.5+18... pm me |
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26 Feb 2009, 07:18 PM
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Rank: RB25DET Posts: 1,340 Joined: 3rd June, 2004 From: Wellington, NZ Car(s): 1997 R33 GTS25t Real Name: Mr Lith Trader Rating : 0 |
QUOTE (joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo @ 26 Feb 2009, 08:11 PM) yeah, its on 18psi for the e85, and 16 for the pulp, as the pulp tune wasn't gaining any more at that pressure Awesome results man, and thanks for sharing - really good to see an overlay between normal pump and E85 on the same car -------------------- '97 R33 GTS25t with Garrett GT3076R on board :)
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