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post 7 Oct 2008, 06:49 PM
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Made my way to the United servo at Rozelle after work this arvo, first getting confused and stopping at the United at Drummoyne i realised i was at the wrong place lol.. kept going down victoria road and just after the bridge there she was.

I took pics but my stupid ghey phone keeps getting the pics corrupted sad.gif so sorry maybe next time when i am there.

Anyway firstly the guy comes out from the store and says "no you cannot use this" i told him yes i can, and its ok and he said no you cant this for special cars....

So i said to him that i am a tuner and i have it all under control, he then asks me if the car is modified.. after telling him that i can run this fuel he says "if you use this the engine could get damaged" ok mate....

So filling up, was weird seeing the 2 numbers on the bowser stay sooo close to each other... the litres and dollars reminded me of a few years ago.

$62 filled up the tank!!! and it was on the E line.

So i start the car, it starts (still got some bp 98 and she starts properly) by the time i press F1 on the datalogit to connect to the ecu the car starts running like a bag of shit, barely staying alive.

So i go to file and open, and open the .dat file that i created the night before where i guessed the car should run to get me to move it out of the servo and to the side of the road to begin the long night ahead of me i had planned tuning it to be right, after clicking OK the engine just comes back to life and purrs like a kitten, the LAMBDA goes from 1.3 to 0.95 almost instantly and so does the smile across my face smile.gif

The next test was a rev, so i give her a rev, expecting a big lumpy rev of missing cyl's instead i hear the normal roar of the rb30 engine, then the smell of the exaust comes through the window, hmmmm that smells interesting, kinda like the smell of oil in a fry pan thats been sitting there after a few days of being used.

I take off out the driveway and down the road, lambda is sticking at about .98 to 1.02 the whole time, not a miss or a cough or a struggle in sight.

I was very pleased with myself, my guess tunes are getting pretty accurate these days.

On the way home i pulled over and chucked on my newly aquired Gizzmo KMON, loaded the software and put my head phones on, got some weird looks from people but at this stage i was too excited to care, i jumped into the timing map, highlighed the whole map and gave her a whole 10deg timing over the whole scale.

Set the gizzmo to record and went for a drive, car felt more responsive then before, felt like boost was commin on quicker, played back the quick drive and the knock did not go over 14, which is quite low for my RB30DET, so up goes another 10 deg over the whole map, i adjusted the idle back down 20deg, went for a drive and she is more responsive again! I could not believe it!

I was kinda thinking on the way home maybe the fuel i got is not e85, because i was thinking it cannot be that easy to convert over, untill i looked at the thermocouple EGT sensor and noticed exaust gas temps are down by a fair amount... ok it must be the real deal.

I noticed the cruise ign maps were set to 55deg so i dropped them down to around 48 to 50 in some parts and came home.

I walked to the back of the car and gave the exaust a quick whiff, it smells weird... more so like heated air then anything else, it seems very very clean.... I also noticed the exaust note sounded deeper and tougher, I am not sure why this happened.

So my conclusion is, BRING ON E85, I will dyno the sucker this weekend at newcastle, will fill up again on thursday night and fill up with the 20 litre container i have sittin in the back of the car incase i run out,

Getting ready for my emissions test on the 15th of october.. I would still LOVE to try the im240 with no cat converter but lets see what happens first before i go pulling off some tests like that.

Next test will be the cold start in the morning when i go to work!


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thanks again to Anthony :))) am going to stick your picture on my rides hood:))

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post 10 Oct 2008, 09:20 AM
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added some cold cranking to the pfc and she seemed to start easier this morning. will be doing a 170km trip this afternoon after work.


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QUOTE (guricha @ 25 Jul 2008, 04:39 PM) *
thanks again to Anthony :))) am going to stick your picture on my rides hood:))

Guilt-Toy now testing E85.
Emissions Tuning my Skyline
Guilt Toy Runs a 11.3 @ 130MPH
Remote Control Power FC tuning thread
I use and recommend these Workshops / Products
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- Guilt-Toy   Guilt-toy Now Running On E85 !   7 Oct 2008, 06:49 PM
- - DRD-00F   Next Thursday will be better for me, I'm not g...   8 Oct 2008, 02:01 PM
|- - Guilt-Toy   QUOTE(DRD-00F @ 8 Oct 2008, 03:23 PM...   8 Oct 2008, 02:10 PM
- - DRD-00F   I don't DO early... especially when I have to...   8 Oct 2008, 02:23 PM
- - some_cs_student   I have more questions, as always In regard to et...   8 Oct 2008, 07:13 PM
|- - KiwiRS4T   QUOTE(some_cs_student @ 8 Oct 2008, 07:13...   10 Oct 2008, 03:02 AM
- - discopotato03   Yes good to see someone locally having a go . In ...   8 Oct 2008, 07:47 PM
- - Guilt-Toy   QUOTE(some_cs_student @ 8 Oct 2008, 08:13...   9 Oct 2008, 09:10 AM
- - Guilt-Toy   UPDATE!!! 50km's done on e85 so f...   9 Oct 2008, 09:19 AM
- - Got Boost?   And here i was thinking economy couldn't get m...   9 Oct 2008, 10:27 AM
- - Angus Smart   I hope this gets a whole lot better, i'm looki...   9 Oct 2008, 11:32 AM
- - joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo   So is this looking like a good budget race fuel bu...   9 Oct 2008, 12:58 PM
- - joeyjoejoejuniorshabadoo   So is this looking like a good budget race fuel bu...   9 Oct 2008, 12:58 PM
- - discopotato03   What sort of air/fuel ratios are you running at th...   9 Oct 2008, 02:20 PM
|- - Guilt-Toy   hey mate driving normally, and giving it stabs a...   9 Oct 2008, 02:41 PM
- - discopotato03   Thanks for the offer but I really need my own Data...   9 Oct 2008, 03:07 PM
- - discopotato03   I found another interesting link , this one is a M...   9 Oct 2008, 05:24 PM
- - Kinks   E85 will always have lower economy than petrol, I...   9 Oct 2008, 05:56 PM
- - Guilt-Toy   went back to the servo, done 70km's on e85 and...   9 Oct 2008, 06:59 PM
- - TiTAN   wow. your exhaust tips are huge good to know the...   9 Oct 2008, 07:09 PM
- - DiRTgarage   love the bowser pic with the car through the hole....   9 Oct 2008, 07:11 PM
- - NYTSKY   $1.25L i think is high for a fuel made from s...   9 Oct 2008, 07:19 PM
- - Guilt-Toy   QUOTE(TiTAN @ 9 Oct 2008, 08:09 PM) wow. ...   9 Oct 2008, 07:19 PM
- - TiTAN   once its running right are you taking it over to g...   9 Oct 2008, 07:27 PM
|- - Guilt-Toy   LOL.. yes.. test is booked in on the 15th of oct...   9 Oct 2008, 07:24 PM
- - discopotato03   The consensus seems to be that using E10 should no...   10 Oct 2008, 08:08 AM
- - Guilt-Toy   added some cold cranking to the pfc and she seemed...   10 Oct 2008, 09:20 AM
- - 180or200   yeh i added heaps to the cold start in winter, now...   10 Oct 2008, 01:12 PM
- - DRD-00F   at least these Indian fellows are trying to stop y...   10 Oct 2008, 01:26 PM
- - 180or200   I have to ask for a key to the pump and aswell as ...   10 Oct 2008, 01:35 PM
- - Guilt-Toy   just about ready to drive up to newcastle.. got a...   10 Oct 2008, 03:06 PM
- - MrKotter   Re: problems with ethanol and fuel lines, the stor...   10 Oct 2008, 07:35 PM
- - black sky   Hey Anth Congrats mate good to see the beast like...   10 Oct 2008, 10:10 PM
- - robots   waiting for the Guilt-toy to stop writing and post...   10 Oct 2008, 10:49 PM
- - Guilt-Toy   okay i made it to Newcastle.. Gauge was sitting ...   10 Oct 2008, 10:54 PM
- - robots   Nice! Do you think you can make it pass emissi...   10 Oct 2008, 11:04 PM
|- - Guilt-Toy   I dunno man.. im going to make 3 tunes for the te...   10 Oct 2008, 11:05 PM
- - TiTAN   are you running an auto? or is that just a replace...   10 Oct 2008, 11:40 PM
|- - Guilt-Toy   converted to manual years ago.. was auto when i f...   10 Oct 2008, 11:47 PM
- - TiTAN   Will be interesting to see how it does in the emis...   11 Oct 2008, 12:09 AM
- - juggernaut1   When extrapolating the potential range on your car...   11 Oct 2008, 04:28 PM
- - discopotato03   Looking good so far , out of curiosity what are yo...   11 Oct 2008, 04:44 PM
- - sh@un   all very interesting stuff for turbo'd cars r...   11 Oct 2008, 06:03 PM
- - Adriano   Can you compare your settings in the PFC in the cr...   11 Oct 2008, 06:13 PM
- - Guilt-Toy   got some very interesting results   11 Oct 2008, 06:44 PM
- - Al   Do share.................................please   11 Oct 2008, 07:25 PM
- - Guilt-Toy   Okay... spent pretty much the whole day on the Dy...   11 Oct 2008, 08:48 PM
- - Bond   Those results are great. You said that on your fi...   11 Oct 2008, 09:25 PM
- - Guilt-Toy   QUOTE(discopotato03 @ 11 Oct 2008, 04:44 ...   11 Oct 2008, 10:15 PM
- - sh@un   May not be something you can answer, but if the en...   11 Oct 2008, 10:29 PM
|- - Guilt-Toy   between 20% and 35% more fuel consumption using e8...   11 Oct 2008, 10:37 PM
|- - sh@un   QUOTE(Guilt-Toy @ 11 Oct 2008, 10:37...   11 Oct 2008, 11:01 PM
- - dougs   that is pretty impressive guilt-toy.   11 Oct 2008, 10:44 PM
- - discopotato03   At the moment there probably isn't enough E85 ...   11 Oct 2008, 11:51 PM
- - Al   Nice result! I would have to do a little resea...   12 Oct 2008, 12:59 AM
- - Cubes   Nice work Guilt-toy. Al... You looking for a lit...   12 Oct 2008, 06:12 PM
|- - Al   QUOTE(Cubes @ 12 Oct 2008, 07:12 PM) Nice...   12 Oct 2008, 07:47 PM
- - W0rp3D   Is there any where that lists where you can get E8...   12 Oct 2008, 07:08 PM
- - Kinks   Great read Tony, and congrats on the power/emissio...   12 Oct 2008, 10:05 PM
- - Guilt-Toy   QUOTE(W0rp3D @ 12 Oct 2008, 08:08 PM) Is ...   12 Oct 2008, 10:33 PM
|- - DiRTgarage   QUOTE(Guilt-Toy @ 12 Oct 2008, 11:33...   13 Oct 2008, 06:48 AM
- - discopotato03   Yes the emissions test should prove most interesti...   13 Oct 2008, 07:24 AM
|- - Guilt-Toy   I was watching something on TV last night about e8...   13 Oct 2008, 08:03 AM
|- - juggernaut1   QUOTE(Guilt-Toy @ 13 Oct 2008, 09:03...   13 Oct 2008, 10:05 AM
- - Guilt-Toy   I managed to get from home in Newcastle to the ser...   13 Oct 2008, 07:33 AM
- - Cubes   lmao at the dreams. Back at Uni I solved some damn...   13 Oct 2008, 08:33 AM
|- - Guilt-Toy   i have leaned it out on cruise while on the freewa...   13 Oct 2008, 11:42 AM
|- - Kinks   QUOTE(Guilt-Toy @ 13 Oct 2008, 12:42...   13 Oct 2008, 05:46 PM
|- - Guilt-Toy   yeah the PFC is starting to show its limits now fo...   13 Oct 2008, 06:28 PM
- - discopotato03   I think the original ethanol scare started when a ...   13 Oct 2008, 11:51 AM
- - 2rismo   I noticed that the Holden Coupe 60 at the Sydney M...   13 Oct 2008, 01:59 PM
- - dano4127   Good work mate! Still really keen to see a ...   13 Oct 2008, 02:06 PM
- - Risking   Get the E11V2!! Not everyone has said I w...   13 Oct 2008, 06:36 PM
- - Cubes   CLOSED LOOP CONTROL: With both cruise and idle set...   13 Oct 2008, 06:51 PM
|- - Guilt-Toy   LOL.. what do i need? QUOTE(Cubes @ 13 Oct...   13 Oct 2008, 06:53 PM
- - Cubes   Not sure what you are getting at? You need lean c...   13 Oct 2008, 06:55 PM
|- - Guilt-Toy   if i need a motec i need a motec.. but thats goin...   13 Oct 2008, 07:01 PM
|- - DiRTgarage   QUOTE(Guilt-Toy @ 13 Oct 2008, 08:01...   13 Oct 2008, 07:40 PM
- - discopotato03   Matter of opinion I suppose but I would not be any...   13 Oct 2008, 07:09 PM
- - SirRacer   Link have put out a good new ecu the G4. There ha...   13 Oct 2008, 07:46 PM
- - Guilt-Toy   i got the exaust leaks fixed.   13 Oct 2008, 07:54 PM
- - Alf   Have you checked the plugs lately? Curious of the...   13 Oct 2008, 09:04 PM
- - DRIFTER   tuned my car(r32 rb26) on e85 about a month ago. i...   13 Oct 2008, 10:03 PM
- - Guilt-Toy   how much power did you get? i got 340rwkw out of ...   14 Oct 2008, 07:03 AM
- - 180or200   How injector you talking about? What fuel pump se...   14 Oct 2008, 07:59 AM
|- - DRIFTER   QUOTE(180or200 @ 14 Oct 2008, 08:59 AM) H...   14 Oct 2008, 12:55 PM
|- - Guilt-Toy   I think the same. i had plenty left at 340rwkw an...   14 Oct 2008, 01:10 PM
|- - BezerkR32   depending on what power you are looking to make, y...   14 Oct 2008, 07:12 PM
- - discopotato03   Another thread that looks interesting form Evoluti...   14 Oct 2008, 08:22 AM
- - Guilt-Toy   QUOTE(180or200 @ 14 Oct 2008, 08:59 AM) H...   14 Oct 2008, 08:26 AM
- - DRIFTER   i got to about 90% duty cycle but that is not a tr...   14 Oct 2008, 10:32 AM
- - T04GTR   this is very cool topic! anthony, if you could...   14 Oct 2008, 11:35 AM
- - Guilt-Toy   hmmm to make things more confusing for me...   14 Oct 2008, 01:57 PM
- - DRIFTER   at what point does the fuel line become too small?   14 Oct 2008, 07:26 PM
|- - DiRTgarage   QUOTE(DRIFTER @ 14 Oct 2008, 08:26 PM) at...   14 Oct 2008, 07:31 PM
- - Guilt-Toy   i swear i am going crazy, more dreams!! ...   15 Oct 2008, 06:14 AM
|- - W0rp3D   QUOTE(Guilt-Toy @ 15 Oct 2008, 07:14...   15 Oct 2008, 06:46 AM
|- - Guilt-Toy   cheers mate =) QUOTE(W0rp3D @ 15 Oct 2008, ...   15 Oct 2008, 06:54 AM
- - skyguy61   Hey Anthony, ive been reading your topic very int...   15 Oct 2008, 07:52 AM
- - Guilt-Toy   yeah i know.. they saw my testing and the great r...   15 Oct 2008, 07:59 AM
- - 2rismo   Good luck, bruz. Can't wait to see the results...   15 Oct 2008, 08:28 AM
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