IPB

> Tutorials / DIY / FAQ Rules

Welcome to the Tutorials / DIY / FAQ Forum! This section of SAU is where we move the helpful threads that we find in other forums. This is *NOT* the place to ask questions or to try and get help. Please use the other appropriate forums for that.

3 Pages V   1 2 3 >  
Digg this topic · Save to del.icio.us · Slashdot It · Post to Technorati · Post to Furl · Submit to Reddit · Share on Facebook · Fark It · Googlize This Post · Add to ma.gnolia · Tag to Wink · Add to MyWeb · Add to Netscape Reply to this topicStart new topic
> Fitting a short shifter. (R33 GTR) - lots of pictures.
PranK
post 22 Jul 2003, 11:28 PM
Post #1


Mo growin' since 06.
Group Icon
Group Icon
Group Icon

Posts: 9,269
Joined: 14th April, 2002
From: Sydney
Real Name: Christian
Trader Rating : 9
Garage: GS500F



Fitting a short shifter in an R33 GTR.

The short shift kit that I used was a C's kit.

Tools used:
  • Needle nose pliers
  • Philips head screwdriver
  • Allan Key (not sure what size - its in a regular allan key set).
  • Knife
  • small screwdriver (or something small that you can get things out with).
Time taken: 40mins.

Remove the trim over the transmission tunnel.
Remove the 4 screws holding down the metal bracket and rubber housings.

You should see this

Peel the rubber housing up over the gear shift.

Find the big circlamp (2 big ends with holes - you can see it in this picture).

You will either have to squeeze the ends together to take it out, or grab one end and feed it, bit by bit through the gap. You can now take the shifter out.


Now take out the 2nd circlamp style thing. I fed it through the gap, bit by bit. (You can see it in place on the pics above). This is where the small screwdriver came in handy - this with the pliers.

The plastic piece with the 2 metal rods should just pull straight out.

Take out the little metal gasket.

Seat the metal tubing that came with the C's shifter kit (might not be with the other ones) into the hole as an extension of the base.

Put the metal gasket from the bottom of the original shifter on top of the extension cylinder.

Place the plastic bit on top.

Put the new shifter in. This bit is a bit tricky - the plstic bit at the bottom has to fit perfectly inside the gearbox casing (you can see where it has to go in the pics) - this took me several minutes to do. It will be firmly seated once in properly.




This next bit is to hold it down (without the circlamps). You need to lightly screw the arms onto the base so they will swing. Then fit the base over the top and swing the arms around it and screw it together. The end result will look like this. (my camera got grease on the lense.. sorry about the bluriness)



Now you will need to cut a slit in the rubber housing to get it down and over the shifter. (I am not sure if this is neccassary, but i saw no other way of doing it).


Screw the top metal ring and rubber housings back over the rest.

Put the trim back on. ALL DONE. And Jaysons leather gear boot still fits beatifully over the new short shifter.


Done.

Christian.

Any q's - email me. I also have bigger pics available on request.


--------------------
Profile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Googlebot
post 22 Jul 2003, 11:28 PM
Post #







Trader Rating :




> Google Ads

Register on the forums for fewer ads.
Go to the top of the page
Quote Post
GiJOr33
post 23 Jul 2003, 12:46 AM
Post #2


Rank: RB25DET
*****

Posts: 617
Joined: 2nd September, 2002
Trader Rating : 0




i put oil on the shifter and the rubber bit and then just pulled it down over the top, then wiped off any excess at the end.

also i found that fitting the large metal spacer inside the shift casing didn't fit first time. I had to get a file out and file off some burred edges in the grooves of the gearbox shift housing. It is just from wear and tear. But the difficult thing is doing it with out letting the filings go into the gearbox. So what i did was put a bit of oil on the small file, and some on my finger... i'd give it a bit of a file and then wipe the inside clean and also wipe the file, then i'd put a bit more oil on the file again. This just helps the metal filings stick to the file so they don't drop into the gearbox.

Pictures 9 and 10, where you are putting the spacer in, show the gaps i'm talking about. Roughly halfway down where the metal splines from the plastic bit sit in those gaps were worn a little and stuck out just enough so the spacer wouldn't fit all the way down.


--------------------
Profile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
DJ_L3ThAL
post 26 Jul 2003, 03:36 PM
Post #3


Rank: RB30E
******

Posts: 3,040
Joined: 15th January, 2003
Trader Rating : 1




sweet thanks mate it worked a treat, only problem is there's a gap betwen the boot and my momo gear knob, needs to he about 1.5-2cms shorer, doesnt need the threead so do you rekon i should angle grind the stick shorter in the car or take the shifter out again and do it outside thecar ? coz like will removing it and re-fitting it again wear the shifter or anything ? as i dont mind taking it out again just i dont wanna **** the shifter tongue.gif

oh also and in your tutorial u forgot all the gaskets tongue.gif


--------------------

:cheers: NOOFSMODS - Melbourne-Based PS2/XBOX Repairs & Modifications:cheers:
Profile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
AtomicBomberMan
post 28 Jul 2003, 01:31 AM
Post #4


Rank: RB25DE
****

Posts: 342
Joined: 21st December, 2002
Trader Rating : 20




christian, cutting the slit in the boot is not necessary. just put some of the oil on your fingers (by this time they should be all greasy) onto the thick part of the shifter. and lube up the inside of the boot. a friend and some force should get it on quite easily. most of the nissans are pretty much the same if not exactly the same.
Profile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
DJ_L3ThAL
post 8 Aug 2003, 05:07 PM
Post #5


Rank: RB30E
******

Posts: 3,040
Joined: 15th January, 2003
Trader Rating : 1




QUOTE
Originally posted by AtomicBomberMan
christian, cutting the slit in the boot is not necessary. just put some of the oil on your fingers (by this time they should be all greasy) onto the thick part of the shifter. and lube up the inside of the boot. a friend and some force should get it on quite easily. most of the nissans are pretty much the same if not exactly the same.

i managed to get it over it by simply heating tyhe rubber with hot water for a couple seconds, drying it asnd then stretching it over, worked a treat smile.gif


--------------------

:cheers: NOOFSMODS - Melbourne-Based PS2/XBOX Repairs & Modifications:cheers:
Profile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
justinfox
post 31 Jul 2004, 11:16 AM
Post #6


Rank: RB25DET
*****

Posts: 783
Joined: 4th October, 2003
From: Sydney
Trader Rating : 6




I have a question guys. So how does it feel? Better or worse? Do you find you miss gears every now and then? Does the short shifter rattle at all?

I bought a TRD short shifter for my AE86 (now sold) and damn it was awesome. Very easy to install and the shifts felt 100 times more direct and very much like playing playstation!!! You basically shifted up and down. It was sometimes easier to miss 3rd gear and damn the shifter rattled like mad at high revs but the shift was so good I didn't mind.

Different story with my GT-R though and the stock shifter in my GT-R doesn't feel so bad but very curious to read your reviews of your shifters.


--------------------
JDM STYLE TUNING.COM
Japanese car lovers unite
www.jdmstyletuning.com

My garage:
1993 Nissan Skyline R32 GT-R
2006 Honda S2K
Profile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
BlockHead
post 31 Aug 2004, 02:35 AM
Post #7


Rank: RB20DET
***

Posts: 40
Joined: 23rd May, 2003
Trader Rating : 0




can ppl still get the c's or any other short throw shifter for the Rb25det tranny??
Profile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
slimjim
post 10 Sep 2006, 07:51 PM
Post #8


The Red Emblem
****

Posts: 222
Joined: 7th November, 2004
From: Adelaide
Car(s): BNR32 GT-R
Real Name: James
Trader Rating : 0




For all you guys that have a C's shift kit, how has it held up? Because I put one in my car about 2 months ago, and the damn thing has broken. The big thick shifter (with the thread at the top) has come off the smaller bit that actually goes in the gearbox.
Seems like it is just moulded rubber on the inside of the shaft and it has simply come free of the smaller bit below it.
Has this happened to anyone else?


--------------------

1990 R32 GT-R - SOLD!
Apexi PowerFC & EBC - Apexi Power Intake - GREX Oil Cooler - Nismo Fuel Pump - Nismo FPR - Greddy Strut Brace - M's 3" exhaust with high flow cat - Extreme 6 puck cushioned Kevlar clutch - Extreme chromoly flywheel - MOMO Tuner Wheel - C's Short Shift - Nismo GT500 knob - APP braided brake lines - KYB shocks - Eibach springs - DiRTgarage 2WD/4WD Switch - Pioneer DEH8650MP - Boston SL60s - Soundstream SPS-69s - Dynamat

242rwkW @ 15psi - 350Nm YAY

PLAY GUITAR? Check us out - Custom Guitar Picks

How to install Apexi Power Intake for R32 GT-R
Profile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Dirty32
post 12 Sep 2006, 11:41 AM
Post #9


Did have RB26DETT
****
Group Icon

Posts: 244
Joined: 17th August, 2006
From: Perth - West Oz.
Car(s): BF XR6 Turbo Ute.
Trader Rating : 1




Good write up Christian. Im just waiting for some short shifters to come through to buy one for the R32 GTR.

Just a quick question, When i was installing my new gear knob boot, i undone the screws over the gear shifter to see what it looked like on the inside compared to the pics attached (being an R33). I removed the large rubber housing and took it off. There was grease everywhere as there were some splits in the furthest rubber housing (covering the actual internals, closest to the gearbox).
Is this going to be a problem in future?? If it is, i would replace it when i fit the short shifter...
Should this be fixed urgently or is it not going to cause any troubles...

If i did need to replace it, where would i get one???

Thanks guys.


--------------------
SAUWA member # 175
Profile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
blu3chip
post 14 Sep 2006, 10:07 PM
Post #10


RB25DET
****

Posts: 203
Joined: 19th April, 2006
From: Melbourne
Car(s): R33 GTS-T S2
Trader Rating : 7




great write-up. just attempted installing it into my 33 gts-t and failed miserably and the only difference i can spot between the stock one and the one ive got is that the aftermarket one is longer in length at the part after the ball-like area. is this the same for other short shifter kits?
Profile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Pal
post 15 Sep 2006, 12:05 AM
Post #11


Pal
Group Icon

Posts: 805
Joined: 6th November, 2005
From: Warnbro
Car(s): S1 R33 coupe
Real Name: Eric
Trader Rating : 0




done mine not long ago but had to make up some more spacers to go between the top of the gearbox and under the plate as it was compressing the large nylon bush where the ball sits in and caused the shifter to get very tight and wouldnt spring back to the centre. I also cut my stock shifter below the rubber mounting and in the same place on my short shifter annd tig welded the stub of the short shifter onto the rubber mounted section (top half). this has eliminated the noisyness of the short shifter. still feels sharp and short but feels alot smoother.


--------------------
best 1/4 13.799@103mph (with 256rwhp)

290rwhp and now for the expensive bits!!!

WA SAU Member 136



No matter where you go, there you are.
Profile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
mak0
post 6 Oct 2006, 04:40 PM
Post #12


Rank: RB20E
*

Posts: 14
Joined: 7th July, 2006
Real Name: Michael
Trader Rating : 1




Hi awesome write up =)
I have just bought a short shifter off dodgy ebay. Anyway, the shifter does not have that white cylinder on the ball bit at the end that goes into the gearbox.
I am reluctant to pull my existing shifter out without knowing whether or not I will be able to get this white cyclinder off the existing shifter and fit it to my short shifter. Does anyone know if this is possible?
Currently im in the process of abusing the ebay user and telling them I havent received all parts that were pictured in the sale... However worst case scenario is the user will just ignore me and I probably wont get the part i need.
Can anyone tell me if removing the cylindrical bit from the end of the stock shifter and plonking it onto the new shifter is possible and will work?
Im guessing yes but I dont like it when im not 100% sure.
Any help appreciated.
Profile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
CATKICKER
post 7 Oct 2006, 09:18 AM
Post #13


Rank: RB25DET
*****

Posts: 814
Joined: 13th September, 2005
From: Hobart
Car(s): R32 GTS-t
Real Name: Todd
Trader Rating : 10




Hey mate, if you are talking about the lower bush (cap) on the very bottom then I would try and get it from the seller... I attempted to reuse the one from the factory shifter and it busted off!

Are you talking about the seller 'nottieboy'? That is where I got mine, good quality kit (for the price) but had the upper ring on the shifter missing so I cut the factory shifter in half and used that one.

The instructions provided with the kit were COMPLETELY WRONG and basically had the setup upside down. Didn't work correctly and I was very unhappy. I took it up with the seller and was provided with a link to this thread so that was helpful!!

When removing the shifter to reinstall it as per these instructions, the lower bush (the cap) poped off the end of the shifter and got stuck in the box. I had to purchase one from Nissan which cost $4, it was a little smaller inside so I had to LIGHTLY file the end of the shifter (basically remove the chrome plating). I also purchased a new lower boot as mine had splt and had leaked oil everywhere, that cost about $14.

Now that it is installed correctly, it works beautifully! I love it! I do however have to knock it over to 5th a little but that is probably a combination of the short throw and a worn syncro...

I do have a couple of questions however...

How are you meant to fix/seal the bottom of the lower boot to the square plate? The little lip on it isn't enough and it is way to big to strech the boot over it...

Is it normal that if you screw it all the way up it is too tight/stiff? Or is that just a result of the cheaper 'universal' kit? I may have to do what Pal suggested and make a spacer for the top of the box.

Thanks and hope it helps.

Todd
Profile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
mak0
post 7 Oct 2006, 10:25 AM
Post #14


Rank: RB20E
*

Posts: 14
Joined: 7th July, 2006
Real Name: Michael
Trader Rating : 1




Todd, no sorry it wasnt 'nottieboy'. My seller didnt even give instructions! Lol but it wasnt stated in the product description so theres nothing i can do about that. These instructions here are great anyway, so i doubt the supplied ones would be any better, especially judging from your experience with the supplied instructions u receved.
The 'lower bush (cap)' busting off your shifter doesnt sound to good so im not willing to take the chance of using the existing one. I am still to hear from the ebay seller, and im about to rage...
will be logding a 'Item Not Received or Significantly Not as Described dispute' shortly if i do not get my part.
Profile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
CATKICKER
post 7 Oct 2006, 09:15 PM
Post #15


Rank: RB25DET
*****

Posts: 814
Joined: 13th September, 2005
From: Hobart
Car(s): R32 GTS-t
Real Name: Todd
Trader Rating : 10




Ah cool, well worst case $4 isn't too much to have to fork out but the time involved in ordering, paying, waiting for and then collecting it is a pain. Better than a useless shifter in the bottom of the draw!

Todd
Profile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+