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6 Feb 2007, 02:42 PM
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![]() My drinking team has a racing problem. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 3,641 Joined: 5th November, 2002 From: Newcastle Car(s): R33 GTST Real Name: Boost Junkie Trader Rating : 17 |
Does anyone know much about the tests that you get done at Botany or Penrith?
Mine is booked in for Botany in the morning and I was wondering if leaning the PFC off heaps would make it better or worse... Anyone have a Idea? Would using different fuel make a difference? Should i use BP98 or Mobil Synergy or Optimax 100 or even the E10 fuel thats available? Has anyone passed this test with a Power FC with huge injectors and a topmount gt35r or something similar? Would be good to see how bad or close my car is before i go spending lots of money to get it right. I got stock cams and cam gears and just put a Xforce highflow 3" cat on it Any ideas welcome! -------------------- Owner Tuned - 11.3 second quarter @ 130.09 MPH with 374rwkw.
thanks again to Anthony :))) am going to stick your picture on my rides hood:)) Guilt-Toy now testing E85. Emissions Tuning my Skyline Guilt Toy Runs a 11.3 @ 130MPH Remote Controll Power FC tuning thread Myspace Power FC Full ECU RE-MAP Dyno Tunes - Sydney & Newcastle $400 |
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6 Feb 2007, 03:01 PM
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![]() Rank: RB30E ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 3,396 Joined: 18th July, 2003 From: Sydney Car(s): BNR 34 M-SPEC, Liberty GT Trader Rating : 38 |
Depending on what year it was made, emissions change , you will have to pass the emission test for the time your car was made .
If its post 95 my guess is you will not pass unless its very close to stock . -------------------- For sale
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6 Feb 2007, 03:04 PM
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![]() My drinking team has a racing problem. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 3,641 Joined: 5th November, 2002 From: Newcastle Car(s): R33 GTST Real Name: Boost Junkie Trader Rating : 17 |
any ideas what fuel to use Jerry ?
-------------------- Owner Tuned - 11.3 second quarter @ 130.09 MPH with 374rwkw.
thanks again to Anthony :))) am going to stick your picture on my rides hood:)) Guilt-Toy now testing E85. Emissions Tuning my Skyline Guilt Toy Runs a 11.3 @ 130MPH Remote Controll Power FC tuning thread Myspace Power FC Full ECU RE-MAP Dyno Tunes - Sydney & Newcastle $400 |
6 Feb 2007, 03:27 PM
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![]() Rank: RB20DET ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 74 Joined: 4th May, 2004 Trader Rating : 0 |
does it go on the year the engine was made, or the year the car was?
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6 Feb 2007, 03:29 PM
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![]() razor 'dollar' sharp ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2,186 Joined: 4th September, 2003 From: london Car(s): R33 GTR, R32 GTST Real Name: vijay Trader Rating : 14 |
Give Matt (aka Hitman) a call. I think he helped Mona sort out an emissions test last time.
Are you going for a test just to check, or is it for engineering cert / EPA? -------------------- BUY MY GTR! 1995 Abflug R33 GTR-V Spec, low km, T88-34D, 395kw, $22,000 |
6 Feb 2007, 03:30 PM
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![]() Rank: RB30E ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 3,396 Joined: 18th July, 2003 From: Sydney Car(s): BNR 34 M-SPEC, Liberty GT Trader Rating : 38 |
any ideas what fuel to use Jerry ? I would use the 100 ron from Shell, because it has ethonol and it may help. The last time I took a car for enissions test , this fuel wasn't available so I used normal 98 ron. If you can get your hands on a new ( or near new) compliance cat , i would use that as well . To be honest with you , I dont like your chances with your current set up. If I remember correct your car is 95 model and that mekes it harder, earlier models would be slightly easier to pass. Good luck and let us know how you go. Give me a buz if you like as I have a tip fpr you but I dont want to put it on here for obvious reasons . -------------------- For sale
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6 Feb 2007, 05:37 PM
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![]() My drinking team has a racing problem. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 3,641 Joined: 5th November, 2002 From: Newcastle Car(s): R33 GTST Real Name: Boost Junkie Trader Rating : 17 |
This is just the first step to see how much my car is out before changing anything to pass for engineers certificate.
No defects or anything so im being pro-active instead of re-active atm Give Matt (aka Hitman) a call. I think he helped Mona sort out an emissions test last time. Are you going for a test just to check, or is it for engineering cert / EPA? -------------------- Owner Tuned - 11.3 second quarter @ 130.09 MPH with 374rwkw.
thanks again to Anthony :))) am going to stick your picture on my rides hood:)) Guilt-Toy now testing E85. Emissions Tuning my Skyline Guilt Toy Runs a 11.3 @ 130MPH Remote Controll Power FC tuning thread Myspace Power FC Full ECU RE-MAP Dyno Tunes - Sydney & Newcastle $400 |
6 Feb 2007, 05:41 PM
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Rank: RB25DET ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1,160 Joined: 28th June, 2006 From: chatswoo Car(s): jap cabbie Real Name: ryan Trader Rating : 7 |
it kinda makes sense to use a better burning fuel.. maybe even advance the timming abit so that it burns all the fuel? retarding the timming would be the reverse? this makes sense in my head duno bout on paper.
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6 Feb 2007, 06:39 PM
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![]() My drinking team has a racing problem. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 3,641 Joined: 5th November, 2002 From: Newcastle Car(s): R33 GTST Real Name: Boost Junkie Trader Rating : 17 |
well the question for me now is should i use the optixmax 100octate fuel thats 5% ethenol or use this e10 blend stuff that is available thats 10% - the 10% will burn a better emission but its only 95 octate and i wont be able to run it as lean with the same amount of timing.
What to do... -------------------- Owner Tuned - 11.3 second quarter @ 130.09 MPH with 374rwkw.
thanks again to Anthony :))) am going to stick your picture on my rides hood:)) Guilt-Toy now testing E85. Emissions Tuning my Skyline Guilt Toy Runs a 11.3 @ 130MPH Remote Controll Power FC tuning thread Myspace Power FC Full ECU RE-MAP Dyno Tunes - Sydney & Newcastle $400 |
6 Feb 2007, 06:45 PM
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![]() My drinking team has a racing problem. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 3,641 Joined: 5th November, 2002 From: Newcastle Car(s): R33 GTST Real Name: Boost Junkie Trader Rating : 17 |
This is what i found about e10
Emissions outcomes for E10 In general, E10 can be expected to yield reductions in the following emissions: carbon monoxide (CO); exhaust hydrocarbons (HCs); particulates; oxides of nitrogen (NOx), (in some circumstances); greenhouse gases, depending on the ethanol production process; and known carcinogens, such as benzene. However, some increase in other known carcinogens, such as formaldehyde, can be expected.61 So it does decrease nox which is one emission they test for.. now to look on the site to see if they test for formaldehyde - whatever that is... -------------------- Owner Tuned - 11.3 second quarter @ 130.09 MPH with 374rwkw.
thanks again to Anthony :))) am going to stick your picture on my rides hood:)) Guilt-Toy now testing E85. Emissions Tuning my Skyline Guilt Toy Runs a 11.3 @ 130MPH Remote Controll Power FC tuning thread Myspace Power FC Full ECU RE-MAP Dyno Tunes - Sydney & Newcastle $400 |
6 Feb 2007, 07:07 PM
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![]() Rank: RB30E ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 3,396 Joined: 18th July, 2003 From: Sydney Car(s): BNR 34 M-SPEC, Liberty GT Trader Rating : 38 |
This is what i found about e10 Emissions outcomes for E10 In general, E10 can be expected to yield reductions in the following emissions: carbon monoxide (CO); exhaust hydrocarbons (HCs); particulates; oxides of nitrogen (NOx), (in some circumstances); greenhouse gases, depending on the ethanol production process; and known carcinogens, such as benzene. However, some increase in other known carcinogens, such as formaldehyde, can be expected.61 So it does decrease nox which is one emission they test for.. now to look on the site to see if they test for formaldehyde - whatever that is... This is what they test: THC, NOX, CO and CO2. They will do 2 runsa the first is a warm up run , most cars will fail this and then they do another run. -------------------- For sale
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6 Feb 2007, 07:16 PM
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![]() My drinking team has a racing problem. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 3,641 Joined: 5th November, 2002 From: Newcastle Car(s): R33 GTST Real Name: Boost Junkie Trader Rating : 17 |
Cheers Jerry..
Thanks for your advice its all sorted... and i decided im going to run the shell 100 because its the best of both worlds.. its got 100 octane and 5% ethenol. I really dont think there is much chance of passing but i need to start somewhere. So no one here has passed there modded skyline with intercooler / plenum / top mount and 700ish cc injectors with a power fc and gt35r before? -------------------- Owner Tuned - 11.3 second quarter @ 130.09 MPH with 374rwkw.
thanks again to Anthony :))) am going to stick your picture on my rides hood:)) Guilt-Toy now testing E85. Emissions Tuning my Skyline Guilt Toy Runs a 11.3 @ 130MPH Remote Controll Power FC tuning thread Myspace Power FC Full ECU RE-MAP Dyno Tunes - Sydney & Newcastle $400 |
6 Feb 2007, 07:45 PM
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![]() My drinking team has a racing problem. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 3,641 Joined: 5th November, 2002 From: Newcastle Car(s): R33 GTST Real Name: Boost Junkie Trader Rating : 17 |
Found this on the gov emissions site. which basically says that the NOX level is increased which is what most skylines fail on. So i am going to run normal BP98 fuel or Synergy 8000 after i do more research on the 2 i will decide.
Hydrocarbon emissions decreased as higher percentages of ethanol were added to the fuel: at 10% ethanol, HC emissions decreased by about 18%; at 20%, HC emissions decreased by about 22%; and at 40%, HC emissions decreased by 45%. CO emissions were consistently lowered as higher levels of ethanol were added to the fuel: at 10%, CO was reduced by about 18%; at 25%, CO was reduced by over 30%; and at 40%, CO was reduced by over 40%. NOx emissions increased substantially with ethanol volume: at 10%, the NOx emission increase was about 10%; at 20%, the NOx emission increase was about 14%; and at 40%, the NOx emission increase was about 20%. -------------------- Owner Tuned - 11.3 second quarter @ 130.09 MPH with 374rwkw.
thanks again to Anthony :))) am going to stick your picture on my rides hood:)) Guilt-Toy now testing E85. Emissions Tuning my Skyline Guilt Toy Runs a 11.3 @ 130MPH Remote Controll Power FC tuning thread Myspace Power FC Full ECU RE-MAP Dyno Tunes - Sydney & Newcastle $400 |
6 Feb 2007, 07:47 PM
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Rank: RB30E ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2,429 Joined: 12th June, 2005 From: sydney Trader Rating : 20 |
It should be possible to get it to pass, P.S. make sure your closed loop is enabled on the hand controller. They dont do power runs or anything like that, its all mid/low throttle stuff. you will need to have the cold start/warm up enrichments well calibrated to pass though. When i had a car tested, they practically made it pass by telling me where to make the adjustments, and then did the second test. PS when i worked at chiptorque, we got the horsepower hero VK commodore with 440 rwhp to pass, although the cats almost killed the motor.
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