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28 Sep 2004, 08:54 PM
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that's racing! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 18,920 Joined: 10th May, 2002 From: Sydney Car(s): bnr32,z33,wgnc34,ungd21 Trader Rating : 18 |
OK, help me out with a history lesson!
I'd like to collect details of the Aussie delivered Skylines thru to R31....dates, names, engines and some pics. I'll sticky this up once we have the info! So, those who have been around long enough to remember, start posting! -------------------- |
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29 Sep 2004, 05:32 AM
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![]() J's Garage ![]() Posts: 4,429 Joined: 26th November, 2003 From: Kingston , QLD Car(s): RB26 Onevia, Legacy wagon Real Name: Jason Trader Rating : 2 |
Year :73-77
Model designation: C110 Engine : L24 Engine type : SOHC L6 Engine capacity : 2393cc Ignition : points Body type : sedan and hardtop stovetop lights? : yes Year :1977-1982 Model designation : C210 Engine : L24 Engine type : SOHC L6 Engine capacity : 2393cc Ignition : points/electronic in 81-82 Body type : sedan and hardtop stovetop lights : not in aus......only japan -------------------- SAUQLD Member 42
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29 Sep 2004, 12:47 PM
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![]() KGC10-R "hakosuka" ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 57 Joined: 11th July, 2004 From: Hawkesbury; Sydney Car(s): KGC10-R "Hakosuka!" Real Name: Jim. Trader Rating : 0 |
First (PRINCE) SKYLINES in Australia, mid 1964, were (S50) 4 cylinder 1500cc four doors.
~Sept 1965 the first four door two litre six cylinder (S54Be2, later was the Be3, "e" meant export model) triple webered PRINCE SKYLINE 2000 GT-B's came off the boat from Japan.At this time Australia was the only country the SKYLINE was officially exported to. Skylines continued to be imported from 1965 to 1968('67 models). 1966 saw the absorbing of Prince Motor Company by Nissan Motors, and Skylines although still built by the same people, were now Nissan Prince Skyline GT's ("A" model single carby, or "B" model with three DCOE 18 40mm Webers) There were a quite a few more differences! Badging varied from 2000 GT to NISSAN PRINCE A200 GT. With 3 webers; 2 litre 6 cylinder (G7) 127bhp @ 5600 rpm 123ft/lbs torque @ 4400 rpm With single Nikki downdraught; 106 bhp and ?? for the rest! No 1968 model Skylines for Australia. Nothing 'till ~May 1973 when we got the C110, AKA the Datsun 240K. Second white car is a Prince Motor Company built S54b2 RED car is a NISSAN built S54Be3. Engine is the G7 "B" version. Jim. |
30 Sep 2004, 04:55 AM
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![]() J's Garage ![]() Posts: 4,429 Joined: 26th November, 2003 From: Kingston , QLD Car(s): RB26 Onevia, Legacy wagon Real Name: Jason Trader Rating : 2 |
1982 is where the r30 began....you would have to ask the guys in the r30 thread about that one.
have a look in my gallery...its chockers of c210/c211 pix EDIT: Also check out my thread "c210/c211 skylines" for full history of this model -------------------- SAUQLD Member 42
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30 Sep 2004, 02:08 PM
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![]() Rank: RB25DET ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1,693 Joined: 16th April, 2003 From: gold coast Car(s): 2x R31 1x R30 Trader Rating : 0 |
i don't know if this will help as the r30 was produced in OZ as well as imported in small numbers?
the MR30 was the australian version, HR and DR were the japanese made sports versions produced in both 2 and 4 door examples, 81/82 the HR was built as an entry level sports car basic turbo inline sohc 6 cylinder producing around the 150-160bhp with a weight of around the 1150kg mark for the 2 door and only slightly more weighty in the 4 door, this car was raced both in japan, the USA and here in australia with "gibson motor sport" being the main surrporter of the skyline here in OZ, in the US Paul Newman took a liking to the car and raced it with much success there, this in turn lead to Nissan japan producing a limited # of "Paul Newman" HR30 skylines both in the 2 and very rear 4 door versions, still running the inline 6 but it produced around 170-180bhp. i don't know what year production of the HR stopped as in 1982 Nissan began production of the DR30.... the first of the DR range i believe was a N/A fj20de powered car about 160bhp, the car itself had quite a few differences to the HR, it had all the "mod cons" radio, a/c, power windows and central locking which in turn made the DR about 100kg heavier than the HR, this trend seemed to follow in the next versions of the DR as well. the RS DR30 was a step up from the N/A version as it was powered by the fj20det at around 180-190bhp not to many changes other than the turbo and a brake upgrade though, some may have had a factor sun roof? then in 83/84 Nissan went that extra step forward and revamped the DR30 skyline into something that will turn heads even today.. the RS-X DR30, for starters the intercooled fj20det produced 205bhp and was the most powerful production car produced by Nissan, the look of the car was changed to a more aggressive looking no grill smaller headlights sharper front profile, "tekemon" or "iron mask" was what it was refered to by locals. all of these models have made there way over to australia at some point and are still being shipped today... they were the beginning of what is now refered to as the "wedge shape" skyline, 6th generation skyline..... -------------------- 1 RB20det powered HR30 coupe
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30 Sep 2004, 02:38 PM
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![]() The Burninator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 5,643 Joined: 5th June, 2002 From: Melbourne Car(s): 91 Harley & Dragon Wagon Real Name: Trogdor Trader Rating : 4 |
Most of the info you're after can probably be found here:
http://homepages.tig.com.au/~robs/kevspage.htm Check out the Skygline history section: http://homepages.tig.com.au/~robs/kevspage4.htm |
30 Sep 2004, 03:12 PM
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![]() J's Garage ![]() Posts: 4,429 Joined: 26th November, 2003 From: Kingston , QLD Car(s): RB26 Onevia, Legacy wagon Real Name: Jason Trader Rating : 2 |
i find it odd that the hr30 was built in 81 and 82 but the c210 was still in production in 82...
not saying that anyone is wrong, cos i dont know who's right and who isn't -------------------- SAUQLD Member 42
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30 Sep 2004, 03:50 PM
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![]() Rank: RB25DET ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1,693 Joined: 16th April, 2003 From: gold coast Car(s): 2x R31 1x R30 Trader Rating : 0 |
it may have been the MR30 that had a 81 model as there are some r30 owners here with late 81 model cars
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30 Sep 2004, 04:29 PM
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![]() The Burninator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 5,643 Joined: 5th June, 2002 From: Melbourne Car(s): 91 Harley & Dragon Wagon Real Name: Trogdor Trader Rating : 4 |
QUOTE(V8skylineMAN) i find it odd that the hr30 was built in 81 and 82 but the c210 was still in production in 82...
not saying that anyone is wrong, cos i dont know who's right and who isn't Yes there were overlaps in production. Production of the 32 started in '89, however, 31's were still being manufactured in '90. |
7 Oct 2004, 03:14 AM
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![]() Rank: RB25DET ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1,509 Joined: 11th April, 2003 Trader Rating : 3 |
C210/211's ceased production in early 81 and sales records show stayed on sale till August 81 and MR30's took over from September of that year.
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7 Oct 2004, 04:37 AM
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![]() J's Garage ![]() Posts: 4,429 Joined: 26th November, 2003 From: Kingston , QLD Car(s): RB26 Onevia, Legacy wagon Real Name: Jason Trader Rating : 2 |
QUOTE(Ghostrider) C210/211's ceased production in early 81 and sales records show stayed on sale till August 81 and MR30's took over from September of that year. I not certain that is entirely correct.......because I have taken parts from a c210 in the wreckers and the compliance plate said 82..i dont recall the month though. It had rectangular headlights similar to mr30 -------------------- SAUQLD Member 42
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7 Oct 2004, 06:45 AM
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Ban? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 21,119 Joined: 20th April, 2002 From: Dandenong, VIC & Concord, NSW Car(s): R32 GTS4, S14 & Cefiro Real Name: Shan Trader Rating : 11 |
according to FAST, R30s were made from:
08/81 to 82/10 new series from 10/82 till 08/83 new series from 08/83 till 08/84 new series from 08/84 till _ (wtf) -------------------- ![]() < shan :: forum administrator :: team super fun happy sliders > $40 HYPERREV MAGS SKYLINE'S - ARISTO'S - LANCER EVO'S - STAGEA'S |
7 Oct 2004, 07:00 AM
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![]() Rank: RB25DET ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1,509 Joined: 11th April, 2003 Trader Rating : 3 |
QUOTE(V8skylineMAN) I not certain that is entirely correct.......because I have taken parts from a c210 in the wreckers and the compliance plate said 82..i dont recall the month though.
It had rectangular headlights similar to mr30 Not that it particularly matters, but if you took parts off a C210 with compliance plate stamped year 82, it would in fact be an Aussie C211, BUT! to my knowledge, No Skylines were made in Australia with the exception of that BRICK they called an R31 4 dr sedan & wagon. C110, C210/211, M/H/DR30 all made in Japan, and either shipped here in parts for assembly, or whole, but I think if my memory serves me correctly, all Skylines were fully imported. Some 240K's were assembled here, 4 dr sedans etc, but coupes were imported, same as 180B SSS. And, I have a friend that owns a VL Dunnydore, complied 3/89, but it certainly wasn't made after 86, as VN's were released in 88. -------------------- If the left lane can go past the right lane, they're in the WRONG lane!
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8 Oct 2004, 01:58 PM
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![]() Rank: RB25DE ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 203 Joined: 5th October, 2004 From: Adelaide, SA Trader Rating : 0 |
FWIW, the Iron-mask DR30 was released early in '83. The RS (X) Turbo was realeased in the 2nd 1/2 of '83 & the Turbo-C (intercooled) was Jan '84 onwards. The last DR30's were fitted with factory CDI.
The DR30 RS-X Turbo was the only flagship model Skyline to be ever fitted with a 4-cylinder. The C210 GT-EX turbo was the first mass-produced Japanese Turbocharged vehicle. The C10 was the only model to be offered as a 4-door GT-R (KGC10), and then offered as a 2-door GT-R (KPGC10). The KPGC110 GT-R was only for sold over a period of around 6-9 months in '73 due to the oil crisis. Bear in mind that all this info is for Japanese domestic models only -------------------- Ben
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9 Oct 2004, 07:04 AM
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Rank: RB20DET ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 68 Joined: 1st October, 2004 Trader Rating : 0 |
Ben/ further to your imformation on early skylines. Did you know that the First twin cam Skyline was built in 1965 (FEB) Did you know that the first turbo was in fact 1970 L20 I had one and is still going in car. Also the KPGC110 (1973) was sold only for local market. Reason that was never exported was that the S20 motors were owned by NISMO (alias Prince motor sport division, under the banner of Nissan , with the same engineer that first built the PRINCE) The motors were leased to the purchaser of there GT-R200 vehicles. There is only 287 cars ever built and reported to be 75-79 Genuine cars still alive>Red park has the most publisized vehicle (number 43) I have a vehicle with the vin KPGC110 but is not a GT-R but a GT-X2000 lower spec. It was brought into Aust via Port Moresby N.G. There was 4 different models of the KPGC110. Also as there was 7 different models of the PGC10 A little of the info. RAY
QUOTE(BensDR30) FWIW, the Iron-mask DR30 was released early in '83. The RS (X) Turbo was realeased in the 2nd 1/2 of '83 & the Turbo-C (intercooled) was Jan '84 onwards. The last DR30's were fitted with factory CDI.
The DR30 RS-X Turbo was the only flagship model Skyline to be ever fitted with a 4-cylinder. The C210 GT-EX turbo was the first mass-produced Japanese Turbocharged vehicle. The C10 was the only model to be offered as a 4-door GT-R (KGC10), and then offered as a 2-door GT-R (KPGC10). The KPGC110 GT-R was only for sold over a period of around 6-9 months in '73 due to the oil crisis. Bear in mind that all this info is for Japanese domestic models only |