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24 Jul 2008, 02:47 PM
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![]() RB26パワーハウス ![]() Posts: 9,635 Joined: 7th July, 2004 From: Melbourne Car(s): BCNR33 V-SPEC Real Name: Abu Trader Rating : 85 |
Hey
Was giving my GTR a bit of a hard time yesterday and now there seems to be a slight issue with the gearbox/clutch engaging I put the clutch into the floor and when I attempt to change gears it crunches, much like when the clutch isn't engaged Clutch doesn't slip, not even on high RPM or launching but its starting to crunch 4th gear now even on low RPM levels I thought it may be the slave or master cylinder leaking pressure and not providing enough clamping pressure on the pressure plate to clutch, causing it to crunch but my dad checked both and it seems neither is leaking Fluid looks clean with no leaks, according to service records the fluid has been recently changed Any other thoughts or ideas on what it could be causing the problem Thanks |
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24 Jul 2008, 08:51 PM
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Rank: RB20DET ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 83 Joined: 2nd June, 2008 From: South East Suburbs Car(s): VL Commodore Real Name: Julian Trader Rating : 0 |
could have air in the clutch hydraulic system also try changin ur gear box oil u find that it be smoother
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25 Jul 2008, 03:34 AM
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![]() Rank: RB25DE ![]() Posts: 199 Joined: 5th August, 2004 From: Melbourne Car(s): 1997 R33 GTS-T Trader Rating : 0 |
what was it?
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26 Jul 2008, 08:58 AM
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![]() Rank: RB25DE ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 121 Joined: 26th May, 2008 From: mildura vic Car(s): HNR32 GTS-4, VN SS Trader Rating : 0 |
yeah curious as well, my stagea box is doing the same thing after some spirited driving last night, crunches 4th a lot, really freaked me out, you didnt put some Redline oil or something in it?
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27 Jul 2008, 07:34 PM
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![]() RB26パワーハウス ![]() Posts: 9,635 Joined: 7th July, 2004 From: Melbourne Car(s): BCNR33 V-SPEC Real Name: Abu Trader Rating : 85 |
Okay, well I thought I had it all sorted but it has started happening again
I topped up the fluid as it was a little low, pumped the clutch with the lid off and then tried again and it was fine for a few days, now its started doing it again on the odd occasion Sometimes its fine then on randomly it will crunch into 4th for no reason Does anyone know what the fk is up with it?? I'm going to drain the clutch fluid and put new fluid in it next week, then bleed the clutch. Hopefully that does it but some how I don't think its that as the clutch seems to work fine, no slip or anything and grips in every other gear Thanks |
28 Jul 2008, 09:12 PM
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![]() RB26パワーハウス ![]() Posts: 9,635 Joined: 7th July, 2004 From: Melbourne Car(s): BCNR33 V-SPEC Real Name: Abu Trader Rating : 85 |
No one knows why?
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29 Jul 2008, 02:27 PM
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Rank: RB25DE ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 292 Joined: 5th July, 2008 From: the dirty south Car(s): R32 GT-R 1989 Real Name: Rhys Trader Rating : 0 |
im the same when i change gear into 4th when im boosting, was just gonna replace the gbx fluid and give it a try :s
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29 Jul 2008, 02:45 PM
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![]() RB26パワーハウス ![]() Posts: 9,635 Joined: 7th July, 2004 From: Melbourne Car(s): BCNR33 V-SPEC Real Name: Abu Trader Rating : 85 |
hmm pretty sure mine was replaced recently
I'm going to bleed the clutch tonight and see if that makes a difference |
31 Jul 2008, 09:24 PM
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![]() too much kw to handle on ps ![]() Posts: 1,329 Joined: 2nd March, 2005 From: Melbourne - Eastern Car(s): M.N.P. GTR, Daytona GTR Real Name: Mat Trader Rating : 132 |
It wont. If it was the clutch it would crunch all gears. No?
Dude its 4th synchro, theyre dynamite for crunching. Redline doesnt help either. Its not as miraculous as most say... Might as well start looking for a new box lol, thats what I did! Fixed it real good. -------------------- ** In the top 15 traders for SAU! ** Stainless Cats $80-120 * 32 Greddy Catback $250 * 32 Super Dragger $300 * 32 Master Cylinder $100 * Z32 $285 * RB CAS $320 * GTR Front pipes $200 Sandown: 1:28 - Rooted semi-comps Winton: 1:40 - Streetys |
2 Aug 2008, 03:38 PM
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![]() RB26パワーハウス ![]() Posts: 9,635 Joined: 7th July, 2004 From: Melbourne Car(s): BCNR33 V-SPEC Real Name: Abu Trader Rating : 85 |
Yep
It's the 4th gear synchro |
4 Aug 2008, 08:36 AM
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Rank: RB25DET ![]() Posts: 765 Joined: 16th October, 2005 From: Melbourne Trader Rating : 4 |
Why would it be the clutch? its a synchro for sure...had it happen on so many of my boxes...shift gently and change the oil and hope for the best...its either that or change it...
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4 Aug 2008, 09:04 AM
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![]() RB26パワーハウス ![]() Posts: 9,635 Joined: 7th July, 2004 From: Melbourne Car(s): BCNR33 V-SPEC Real Name: Abu Trader Rating : 85 |
It's happened in the past and it's been the clutch, in a previous car I had it was doing exactly the same thing but it was the pressure plate failing due to being weak causing the clutch not to engage 100% therefor making it hard to put it into gear
Also on the forums the cheap clutches that SLIDE was selling, EXEDY clutch plate and OEM pressure plate eventually started to do the same thing Thanks |
4 Aug 2008, 12:11 PM
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![]() [AROUSN] ![]() ![]() Posts: 689 Joined: 12th June, 2006 From: Melbourne (west) Car(s): R33 GTST, R32 GTR Real Name: Tai Tran Trader Rating : 11 |
Yeah its the 4th gear syncro, have the same problem on mine and seems to be very common on the gtr's.
Theres no way of fixing it other than replacing box or the gears. |
4 Aug 2008, 12:45 PM
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Rank: RB25DET ![]() Posts: 765 Joined: 16th October, 2005 From: Melbourne Trader Rating : 4 |
Wound not hurt to give it an oil change with something decent first and see how it goes...and of course try to shift alittle easier...
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4 Aug 2008, 01:00 PM
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![]() RB26パワーハウス ![]() Posts: 9,635 Joined: 7th July, 2004 From: Melbourne Car(s): BCNR33 V-SPEC Real Name: Abu Trader Rating : 85 |
Its got new redline gear oil in it
As I said, it doesn't crunch all the time just on the odd occasion, most of the time it's avoided |
4 Aug 2008, 01:35 PM
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![]() Spoiler-less 4 Door Love.. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1,403 Joined: 27th January, 2007 From: Sydney/Bathurst Car(s): R32 GTS4 Real Name: Cris Trader Rating : 5 |
I have a GTS4 with a fairly badly crunching 4th.
Why not just try slowing down the speed of gear change? Double clutch/heel-and-toe gears down. 5th -> Neutral -> 4th Blipping throttle helps too -------------------- 4Door Love.. Bragging about and relying on power is like admiting you slept with your cousin.. just proves your retarded.. but HEY!.. what do I know.. i have never slept with my cousin.. For Sale - Stock R33 GTST Rims - No rubber - NSW - $140 - ONO - PM me! |
4 Aug 2008, 01:39 PM
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![]() RB26パワーハウス ![]() Posts: 9,635 Joined: 7th July, 2004 From: Melbourne Car(s): BCNR33 V-SPEC Real Name: Abu Trader Rating : 85 |
I have a GTS4 with a fairly badly crunching 4th. Why not just try slowing down the speed of gear change? Double clutch/heel-and-toe gears down. 5th -> Neutral -> 4th Blipping throttle helps too Yeah that's what I do to avoid it crunching but I'd rather not do that forever |
4 Aug 2008, 03:33 PM
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![]() Rank: RB25DE ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 121 Joined: 26th May, 2008 From: mildura vic Car(s): HNR32 GTS-4, VN SS Trader Rating : 0 |
I found with mine that double clutching did nothing - I noticed however that clutching, bringing the gearstick back slightly and allowing the revs to drop before putting it into 4th makes it smooth again 99% of the time - does not work for downshifts though so I just go straight to third, I'll try some Redline Shockproof Lightweight until ! can get the money together to try and get another GTR/Stagea box!
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23 Aug 2008, 12:17 PM
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![]() Rank: RB20E ![]() Posts: 4 Joined: 26th February, 2008 Car(s): bnr32 Trader Rating : 0 |
Hey I know this is off the topic a little. My car use to crunch first at the lights and if you where a little miss timed with the clutch on the gaer change it would crunch. I got my clutch changed because all of a sudden I had a large vibration. I had cracked my flywheel. After replacing it I never crunched again. I think I am lucky my flywheel didn't let go when it finally decided to go. The only thing holding it together was the ring gear. So now I am alway carful when my car starts to crunch.
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23 Aug 2008, 01:05 PM
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