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> Z06 Vs R35
Amir
post 20 Jul 2008, 08:44 PM
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it says the Z06 is stock ? Find that hard to beleive.

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post 20 Jul 2008, 09:11 PM
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why, because it lost?
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post 20 Jul 2008, 09:13 PM
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ive driven a z06 and they are FASt..really fast..and they keep getting faster through the changes.

Launch control on the GTR looks very impressive.

cars look pretty evenly matched, Zo6 is lighter/more HP tho..
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post 21 Jul 2008, 08:25 AM
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QUOTE(Shaolin242 @ 20 Jul 2008, 09:11 PM) *
why, because it lost?


I watched on autogear where they had a z06 against the 911 turbo, and it was no contest. The 911 was much faster not only in the launch but once it hit 2nd gear it left the z06 car lengths behind. I have presumed the R35 matches the 911, but even from standstill this Z06 obliterated the R35. So yes because it lost.
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post 21 Jul 2008, 09:10 AM
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dude the Z06 has 505HP and weighs only 1420Kg, of course its going to be faster than the GTR (and many other cars) from a rolling start or in gear acceleration.
By all accounts there have been many magazine tests that got 11second 1/4 mile times with the Z06.
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post 21 Jul 2008, 10:08 AM
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Z06 has insane power to weight so it should be faster then the GTR at the higher end of the dial.

Play the z06's game (1/4 mile drag) the GTR may just loose , play the GTR's game ( track) the Z06 looses by the reports shown so far.
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post 21 Jul 2008, 10:17 AM
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I like my cars to be able to go around corners aswell. The straight line thing is just not the whole package. Oh and half descent built quality, road noise is not my thing
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post 21 Jul 2008, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE(R31Heaven @ 21 Jul 2008, 10:17 AM) *
I like my cars to be able to go around corners aswell. The straight line thing is just not the whole package. Oh and half descent built quality, road noise is not my thing


LOL, i love people that take that approach. So a car that goes around corners? Have you seen the lap time the Z06 does around the ring? Its slower then the R35 but not by a whole lot. So it obviously handles well.

I also find it amusing that people talk about wanting a car to go around corners, yet choose a car with all the electronic goodies with it so it takes a lot of the skill and art out of the equation. Saying you like corners implies you like the driving challenge and then wanting a car that has the smarts to do it all for you seems a bit silly to me sad.gif Just an observation smile.gif


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post 21 Jul 2008, 01:18 PM
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It was just a general statement on people have a concept that if a car is fast in a straight line they doesnt meen they are any good on a race track.
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post 21 Jul 2008, 01:23 PM
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I agree entirely Roy.

And personally I think it's important to remember that the difference in an eight minute laptime at any track of only a few seconds is trifling, as in, Z06 v 35 GTR.
A different driver, on a different day, with a different tyre pressure, with buffed or new factory fitted tyres can all have easily this much effect on a lap time.
Too much weight is placed on these times being quoted. Whilst the times are a guide, it doesn't mean that a GTR, or ZR1, or Z06, or whatever, will always beat a whatever whatever thingy over a given piece of road.
Witness the times at any circuit or tarmac rally you care to mention....... and the way perceptibly "inferior" vehicles routinely wax "superior" vehicles.


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post 21 Jul 2008, 01:48 PM
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The Z06 is fast, but not on my lottery win list. I still prefer performance with a boot and four seats aka the sports saloon. I personally don't class the GTR as a sports car, it is a touring car or a sports saloon. A sports car is an NSX, Lambo, Lotus, Chantham, or Ferrari were performance comes first and creature comforts come sa very distant second {yeah some manage both]. And a two seater is a must.


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post 21 Jul 2008, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(R31Heaven @ 21 Jul 2008, 10:17 AM) *
I like my cars to be able to go around corners aswell. The straight line thing is just not the whole package. Oh and half descent built quality, road noise is not my thing


ive still got no idea why people think the Z06/ZR1/C6 corvettes cant go around corners?!

is this from personal experience or because Holdens cant turn?

i can tell u from personal experience, they can Turn. the chassis is great and its so sick having bucket loads of torque under ur right foot at any time. u can slot it in 4th and just cruise..no stalling.

i guarantee you if you drove a z06 and chucked it around corners you will be surprised, leaf springs or not.
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post 22 Jul 2008, 12:39 PM
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The Z06 is a very quick bit of kit, nice looking too.


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QUOTE(Roy @ 21 Jul 2008, 01:08 PM) *
LOL, i love people that take that approach. So a car that goes around corners? Have you seen the lap time the Z06 does around the ring? Its slower then the R35 but not by a whole lot. So it obviously handles well.

I also find it amusing that people talk about wanting a car to go around corners, yet choose a car with all the electronic goodies with it so it takes a lot of the skill and art out of the equation. Saying you like corners implies you like the driving challenge and then wanting a car that has the smarts to do it all for you seems a bit silly to me sad.gif Just an observation smile.gif


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QUOTE(Shaolin242 @ 21 Jul 2008, 03:42 PM) *
is this from personal experience or because Holdens cant turn?


Here is the thing, watched any production car racing? The HSVs do respectably well against the Evo and STIs. On certain tracks they are easily quicker, Holden happen to be building a good car at present and people seem to have trouble accepting it. I love the fact actually, as they say, variety is the spice of life


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Teh GTR CAN LOSE!!! Get used to it...


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