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18 May 2008, 01:06 AM
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![]() RB26パワーハウス ![]() Posts: 9,447 Joined: 7th July, 2004 From: Melbourne Car(s): BCNR33 V-SPEC Real Name: Abu Trader Rating : 79 |
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Upgrading turbo again on standard RB20 motor just wanted to know what would be a better option I can either go with a Apexi AX53B70 or HKS2535 - both turbos in similar condition, for similar price and both come with split stainless dump pipes and braided lines Anyways its not the cost I am worried about its the better suited turbo for the RB20 I am chasing around 230rwkw and have the following mods; Apexi Power FC Apexi AVCR Blitz Intercooler HKS adjustable CAM gears GTR injectors 3" turbo back BOSCH 040 I have seen a internally standard RB20 making about 230rwkw with the Apexi AX53B70 turbo but not sure on what boost and I'm aware there are a few members with standard RB20s cracking 230rwkw + with the HKS2535 on around 19psi Anyways, I'm just after a comparison of the two and wondering whats a better suited combination for the RB20 with my supporting modifications I'm aware the Apexi AX53B70 is rated at 370ps but whats the HKS2535 rated at, I've heard mixed responses Any advise or past experiences would be appreciated Thanks -------------------- |
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18 May 2008, 02:49 AM
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![]() RAD R32 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1,825 Joined: 17th January, 2005 From: adelaide, SA Car(s): 1993 R32 GTST Real Name: Adrian Trader Rating : 14 |
abu i believe the apexi is rated at 420hp?? correct me if im wrong...
just rememebr i think the apexi still runs the ceramic rear wheel! so i have read 18psi is max?? with supporting mods they have seen to make 250 on an rb20 so plenty more for u! as i have the same setup besides cam gears im looking at 220-240kw! but u will prob find the cam gears to help with some response! good luck with ur choice! cheers -------------------- 1993 R32 GTS-T 211.6rwkw@ 17psi..turbo tune dyno Apexi AX53B70 p25, GTR FMIC, PFC, 3" exhaust, GTR injectors, Eboost, Z32 AFM, splitfires. Tuned by Jeff @ speed lab 0434637357 |
18 May 2008, 04:01 AM
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![]() DRIFT_your ride ![]() ![]() Posts: 2,491 Joined: 27th March, 2007 From: melb south east Car(s): R33 gts-t Real Name: Hamish Trader Rating : 0 |
the 2530 and even 2530 have been very well written up time and time again on the 20
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18 May 2008, 07:27 AM
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![]() Rank: RB26DE ![]() Posts: 13,792 Joined: 27th June, 2002 Trader Rating : 5 |
dont like your current setup? I would try the Apexi turbo myself. The results i have read with them are at least line ball with the 2530, and could be Just be sure you get the right housings, not the P22 etc as that sized housing would be overly laggy,
Also re the 230rwkws, it makes for a quick car. But the lag at 230rwkws isnt too different from the 450hp style turbos that will bag you 250rwkws with just about the same amount of response. You arelady have the injectors etc -------------------- Minister of RB20 propaganda RB30s are for folk who prefer roofies to romance Vic Motorsport Stock or chock full of gear. Any car can be this weekends race car...just sign up and GO!!!!! Vic SAU Motorsport Director. Contact motorsport@sauvic.com.au Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional. |
18 May 2008, 02:47 PM
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![]() Rank: RB26DE ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 14,372 Joined: 26th June, 2005 From: Brisbane Car(s): R33 GTS25T, R32 GTS25T ;) Real Name: Andy Trader Rating : 7 |
I had a AX53B70 P25 on my 25 and made 20psi by 3000rpm and 253rwkw my tuner often commented it was the most responsive turbo he had ever tuned , i would try it but check the exhaust housing around the wastegate hole, they can sometimes crack there
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18 May 2008, 10:58 PM
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Rank: RB25DET ![]() Posts: 759 Joined: 16th October, 2005 From: Melbourne Trader Rating : 4 |
Having a 2535 myself i would say its a good thing...but funnily enough i was thinking of going with the apexi turbo with the rebuilt engine...
From the results i've seen on here they seem to be pretty similar...the 2525 is rated at 340ps from memory...but it probably makes abit more than that...personally i'd take some time and just pick the one which is in better nick... -------------------- Project RB22 has ended...
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19 May 2008, 02:08 AM
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![]() DRIFT_your ride ![]() ![]() Posts: 2,491 Joined: 27th March, 2007 From: melb south east Car(s): R33 gts-t Real Name: Hamish Trader Rating : 0 |
personally i'd take some time and just pick the one which is in better nick... good idea really -------------------- |
19 May 2008, 03:23 PM
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![]() RAD R32 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1,825 Joined: 17th January, 2005 From: adelaide, SA Car(s): 1993 R32 GTST Real Name: Adrian Trader Rating : 14 |
well driving mine in the last 2 days i have found mine is hitting 10psi but about 4500-5000k which i think is abit high???
any ideas y?? -------------------- 1993 R32 GTS-T 211.6rwkw@ 17psi..turbo tune dyno Apexi AX53B70 p25, GTR FMIC, PFC, 3" exhaust, GTR injectors, Eboost, Z32 AFM, splitfires. Tuned by Jeff @ speed lab 0434637357 |
19 May 2008, 06:41 PM
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![]() RB26パワーハウス ![]() Posts: 9,447 Joined: 7th July, 2004 From: Melbourne Car(s): BCNR33 V-SPEC Real Name: Abu Trader Rating : 79 |
well driving mine in the last 2 days i have found mine is hitting 10psi but about 4500-5000k which i think is abit high??? any ideas y?? Probably just needs to be tuned but thats still quiet high.. my T04e made 1 bar (14psi) by 4,500rpm and 18psi by around 4,700rpm You have supporting mods I assume, cooler, turbo back exhaust etc? -------------------- |
19 May 2008, 06:48 PM
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Rank: RB20E ![]() Posts: 8 Joined: 1st November, 2006 Car(s): Onevia Real Name: Matt Trader Rating : 0 |
I have used 2 Apexi AX53 turbos on my SR20 and had awesome results HOWEVER I have seen many of them failing due to the compressor wheel hitting the front housing and mashing the blades. This happened to both of mine and at least 3 others here in SA and they are unable to be rebuilt as you cannot obtain Apexi parts for them.
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19 May 2008, 07:27 PM
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![]() DRIFT_your ride ![]() ![]() Posts: 2,491 Joined: 27th March, 2007 From: melb south east Car(s): R33 gts-t Real Name: Hamish Trader Rating : 0 |
that's enough to turn me off...
turbo's from a bankrupt company aint gonna have support i spose -------------------- |
19 May 2008, 07:47 PM
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![]() RB26パワーハウス ![]() Posts: 9,447 Joined: 7th July, 2004 From: Melbourne Car(s): BCNR33 V-SPEC Real Name: Abu Trader Rating : 79 |
Also not to keen on them as they have ceramic wheels
Sticking with the HKS2535 Thanks -------------------- |
19 May 2008, 08:26 PM
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![]() SAU VIC Member 0064 ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 21,347 Joined: 15th February, 2003 From: Gladstone Park Car(s): 1997 R33 GTS25TML Real Name: Paul Trader Rating : 1 |
ah yeah - there's no local IHI distro in australia
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