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4 Dec 2007, 11:15 AM
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![]() VR4 Driver ![]() Posts: 1,346 Joined: 24th September, 2004 From: Adelaide, SA Car(s): 97 Legnum VR4 (AWD TT6) Real Name: Lee Trader Rating : 2 |
Hey all,
Im interested in trying out some local motorkhana events next year in my 33 GTS-t, and Im wondering if anything special needs to be done to prepare the car? Im aware when attending track days (Mallala is the local) Brakes are VERY important, ie. good pads, dot 6 fluid etc. But with Motorkhana, is there any special prep? With the quick changes in direction, is overfilling the sump slightly required to prevent any sort of oil surge issues? Would like to hear from people who have entered such events. Cheers Lee -------------------- Light Beer..... It's like eating out ya sister........Taste's the same, but it's just not right!
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4 Dec 2007, 01:56 PM
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![]() SAU NSW Vice President ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 16,298 Joined: 6th November, 2005 From: Lane Cove Car(s): R33 Track U13 Daily Real Name: Chris Trader Rating : 15 |
Id say with fluids - power steering get a "sweat band" and put that on the resivour as it soaks it up when it spills/boils
Yeah I touch the oil up a bit also. Id also be looking at getting sway bars front and rear if you haven't already done so Maybe a "drift button" for the handbrake -------------------- Event for all - Putty Road Cruise event Event for Members - Bathurst Speed Weekend Thanks to Unigroup Engineering - 9631 2470 Proud Captain of teh Failboat!!1!!!11ty Wakie - 1.13.0600 OP GP - 1.28.4700 WSID - 13.5 @ 108 |
4 Dec 2007, 08:08 PM
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that's racing! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 18,960 Joined: 10th May, 2002 From: Sydney Car(s): bnr32,z33,wgnc34,ungd21 Trader Rating : 19 |
Most important things are
1/ tighten up your handbrake (drift style/fly off would be great) 2/ nice tight diff so is doesnt single spin in the tight stuff and thats about it. enjoy it they are great fun. you won't get brake fade (25 sec run, top speed 60ish) you won't get oil surge (no sustained gs) -------------------- |
6 Dec 2007, 10:44 PM
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![]() Like Skid days, PM me! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 572 Joined: 4th January, 2007 From: Gympie, QLD Car(s): Matchbox! Real Name: Aaron Trader Rating : 0 |
Just make sure all the fluids are full and not over full, wind the boost DOWN, raise the rear tyre pressure about 5psi higher than u usually have it (but not above what the tyre says!). the higher pressure will help the car flick around easier, down side is that there is a little less grip!
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7 Dec 2007, 07:54 AM
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![]() VR4 Driver ![]() Posts: 1,346 Joined: 24th September, 2004 From: Adelaide, SA Car(s): 97 Legnum VR4 (AWD TT6) Real Name: Lee Trader Rating : 2 |
Thanks for that. Now I just need to find out the 2008 dates for SA... CAMS etc dont have any dates yet. Any ideas when they normally release the calendars?
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9 Dec 2007, 02:55 PM
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![]() Rank: RB25DET ![]() ![]() Posts: 620 Joined: 31st May, 2004 Car(s): Seileighty/LS400 Trader Rating : 0 |
As far as i know cams has nothing to do with organising motakhanas. it will be organised by a car club which you would usually have to be a member of.
As for car prep, with a big car you need it to be stiff so you can slide in tight spots. just turning will be useless in such a big car. i use a drift button which makes life easier, and if your diff openwheels at all it can make it frustrating as Duncan pointed out. -------------------- ![]() |
10 Dec 2007, 10:29 AM
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![]() Rank: RB30E ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2,285 Joined: 31st December, 2003 From: Melbourne Car(s): 180sx, VXII Clubsport Trader Rating : 5 |
As said above, with a heavy car you definately need it to be stiffer, and have a diff that's in good order. Get used to the handbrake too, turning on concrete in a heavy car is not so nice...
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13 Dec 2007, 08:36 PM
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![]() Rank: RB25DET ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 769 Joined: 2nd May, 2005 From: Sunshine Coast Car(s): ECR33 Series 1 Trader Rating : 6 |
Concrete??
Try an event on dirt/grass. Either way, be prepared for a Skyline to be bigger than optimum, overpowered and unable to put power down compared to some machines out there. But be prepared for it to be a ton of fun. Besides car preparation, speak with club officials who run the event. If it's a CAMS sanctioned event you will need the appropriate licensing too. |
13 Dec 2007, 08:49 PM
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![]() VR4 Driver ![]() Posts: 1,346 Joined: 24th September, 2004 From: Adelaide, SA Car(s): 97 Legnum VR4 (AWD TT6) Real Name: Lee Trader Rating : 2 |
Well most motorkhana's are held here at a big car park for a distribution centre (we dont have a propper skid pan
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13 Dec 2007, 11:06 PM
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![]() Rank: RB25DE ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 434 Joined: 16th August, 2004 From: Canberra Car(s): R32 GTS-T, 97 Starlet Real Name: Reece Trader Rating : 0 |
I think the Skylines can be competitive. You'll be in the long wheelbase class (Class D over 2750mm) but I reckon you will easily take out your class which mostly consists of falcodores, magnas, and bmws.
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13 Dec 2007, 11:09 PM
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![]() R33 GTS-T,Radical Prosport ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2,000 Joined: 16th April, 2002 From: Sydney Trader Rating : 5 |
Lee everyone got it about right. I wouldn't bother spending money on sway bars unless you want to. I did 2 1/2 years of khanaring and the 2 main points you need to address are the diff and fluids.
PSI's right on the money but even more tyre pressure is what I used. An old bloke came up to me after about 4 events and asked what pressures I was running, I said about 36-40, he says "In car that big no way" told me to run 46-50 and on my next run the R33 slid around the 180 degree hats as smooth as silk. Turns out he's been around khanas for donkeys years and always wins his class. He ran a 4wd TX5 turbo with all 4 wheels at 50. Have fun Neil. -------------------- I use and recommend:-
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20 Jan 2008, 07:34 PM
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![]() Like Skid days, PM me! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 572 Joined: 4th January, 2007 From: Gympie, QLD Car(s): Matchbox! Real Name: Aaron Trader Rating : 0 |
that is so true..
I run skid days up here in Gympie (north of brizzy) on wet concrete.. My rear tyres have a max pressure of 45 psi, and I run them on 45 psi! And thats on WET concrete! Personally, I only use the hand brake when i screw up or need a megga tight turn. The skyline is more than well equipped to give a good outcome.. even just for fun! The diff may not be to happy if you do to many of these days on the black stuff.. but if your not to hard on the old girl she should cope ok. I still have the stock diff, and mine has done 18 skid days now. I use weight shift to help it slide, then GENTLY apply some power. That and the high tyre pressure really helps. I like to slide more than be quick! I do it for fun as well! aaarrgghhh hahahaha! I love doing scando flicks and large power slides. The diff only works really hard when the tyres cant spin. Like when the car is coming into or out of a slide. once the traction on the tyre is broken, its easy for the diff to spin the 2 tyres. that help? -------------------- |
25 Jul 2008, 10:27 AM
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![]() tjandriesen aka "TJ" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 567 Joined: 16th December, 2006 From: New Jersey, USA Car(s): '02 EVO VIII Trader Rating : 0 |
I've been running autocrosses here in the states which are similar to Motorkhana but a bit wider open. The fast cars here spends a lot of time focused on tire pressures and alignments. As mentioned before, pump up pressures and check between runs. You can tune in or out over/understeer by adjusting relative tire pressures. Tire temps are important and we actually hose them down between rounds if they get too hot. If you are serious you might consider optimizing camber setting which will improve your performance, but keep in mind they might not be optimal for track or street usage. For example top Evos are running -3.1 in front and -1.2 in back and 1/8 toe out in the rear which helps with rotation but is a bit twitchy on the track. Someone might ask SydneyKid as to what he would recommend for a Skyline.
And yes, I wish I still has my GTR....... -------------------- '03 EVO VIII 330whp
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25 Jul 2008, 10:33 AM
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![]() Race No #424 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 13,766 Joined: 4th December, 2003 From: Sydney Car(s): R32 GTR Real Name: Jess Trader Rating : 1 |
I've been running autocrosses here in the states which are similar to Motorkhana but a bit wider open. The fast cars here spends a lot of time focused on tire pressures and alignments. As mentioned before, pump up pressures and check between runs. You can tune in or out over/understeer by adjusting relative tire pressures. Tire temps are important and we actually hose them down between rounds if they get too hot. If you are serious you might consider optimizing camber setting which will improve your performance, but keep in mind they might not be optimal for track or street usage. For example top Evos are running -3.1 in front and -1.2 in back and 1/8 toe out in the rear which helps with rotation but is a bit twitchy on the track. Someone might ask SydneyKid as to what he would recommend for a Skyline. And yes, I wish I still has my GTR....... haha sif you would take the GTR back over the EVO TJ Hotwire have you entered any of the motorkhana's this year ? I know the GSR evo club put them on regulary in SA and usually post the upcoming events on SAU! That timeattack coming up at Mallala looks the goods -------------------- SSCC Secretary
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25 Jul 2008, 11:11 AM
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![]() Go teh RB20DET ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 2,239 Joined: 29th August, 2006 From: Cleveland QLD Car(s): 92 HR32, 86 4x4 Hilux Real Name: Zennon Trader Rating : 4 |
like Duncan said oil and brakes will be fine
make sure your handbrake works i can recommend taping a 2 dollar coin to the handbrake to keep the button pressed in (remove tape at the end of the day - letting it bake on will make it messy) ah and maybe get some cheapies for the back -------------------- [IF YOU HAVE MOB WARS PM ME] My Ride | My YouTube | My Picasa | My Facebook | My MySpace Fastest R32 GTST with stock engine and turbo (RB20DET) around QR sprint track - 62.47 ![]() |